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Re: [virgo-dev] [gyrex-dev] Gyrex and Virgo
- From: Gunnar Wagenknecht <gunnar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:42:39 +0200
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Am 05.04.2012 14:16, schrieb Glyn Normington:
> Perhaps the simplest starting point would be to run Gyrex with Virgo
> Nano (which includes standard Equinox launch setup with logback-based
> logging, Apache Gogo console, and nice p2 integration). I guess this
> would take a couple of hours to get going, for someone with the
> appropriate Gyrex skills.
Our minimum requirement is Equinox. Thus, getting running on Virgo Nano
should be fairly trivial. I could imagine that it's actually just
unzipping our bundles into a Virgo Nano deployment folder (dropins?).
I'm not sure what the deployment startegy is using multiple regions, though.
We currently include Jetty 8.1.2 into our distributon. Thus, if there is
a different Jetty version in Virgo Nano and the Equinox Jetty based
HttpService then there might be some issues to solve. But that might
just be getting the bundle start levels right.
In order to "start" Gyrex we make heavy use of the Equinox Application
Admin which is an extension of the OSGi Application Admin based on the
Equinox Extension Registry. There is a single application that you have
to start (org.eclipse.gyrex.boot.server). This application does all the
rest. We rely heavily on lazy activation. Thus, the amount of bundles
that must be started is pretty low.
In bundles.info (default level is 4):
> I think there could be some interesting usecases for Gyrex clusters of
> Virgo Nano or Virgo Kernel instances. (Nano and the kernel are runtimes
> without specific servers pre-installed.) It might then be possible to
> use Apache CXF (also based on ZooKeeper) as a distributed OSGi
> implementation or to use messaging, e.g. in the form of Eclipse Paho
> (for MQTT pub/sub) or RabbitMQ (for AMQP).
I haven't deployed CXF in a Gyrex stack yet. We typically use JAX-RS for
providing RESTful services and JAX-WS for consuming external services.
ECF also provides a remote OSGi services implementation. I played with
it a while back but we didn't find a need for it in the core Gyrex
stack. That doesn't mean that there won't be one in the future.
Currently, Gyrex is designed to not do direct communication between
nodes but to use ZooKeeper as a service for coordination (simple message
queuing, distributed locks and notifications) and sharing configuration
data (OSGi/Eclipse preferences). Thus, we don't use remote OSGi
services. The reason for avoiding direct communication between nodes is
that we never know much about the target cluster environment. Especially
across data centers (sometimes even across racks within the same data
center) it's a non-trivial task to implement.
> It should also be possible to move Gyrex up the Virgo stack (). Note
> that our server deliverables have Tomcat as well as Jetty variants, so I
> wonder how tied to Jetty Gyrex is?
We do have a separation in between that allows us to connect to other
containers than Jetty. Thus, Tomcat is possible. The thing is that the
current Jetty integration is very tight. For example, we don't assemble
a full WAR and deploy that (my understanding is that Gemini Web is doing
this). But we deploy a "root" handler (custom Jetty handler) that allows
to dynamically register (and unregister) applications under multiple
different URLs (combination of virtual hosts and paths). The
applications are actually very lightwight and similar to the OSGi
In terms of administration we allow to configure all Jetty instances
(ports as well as SSL options) within a cluster. This is very specific
to Jetty and has to be rewritten for any other container. Certificates
are stored encrypted in ZooKeeper as well. This can be re-used for any
> I'm interested in the layering of Gyrex as we could then work out what
> combinations of Gyrex and Virgo bundles would work together or overlap.
We also have the notion of a "kernel" (or "core"). It contains the
bootstrapping logic, the clustering components, the context runtime core
as well as helpers for monitoring (metrics, debugging, logging). Within
that kernel I see some overlapping in terms of monitoring. The
bootstrapping is different because we don't rely on bundle start but on
the OSGi applications.
The clustering part offers APIs to participate (eg. a simple queuing
service, a distributed locking service, OSGi/Eclipse preferences). It
does not expose ZooKeeper APIs but sometimes it's necessary to expose
behavior that typically happens in a distributed environment but not
locally (eg. concurrent modification of preferences during flush).
Part of the clustering part is also a provisioning component that uses
p2 to install bundles locally on nodes based on instruction persisted in
ZooKeeper. Thus instructions could be also persisted elswere (eg. in a
database). But some refactoring would be necessary to extract a generic
We setteled on SLF4J as logging API and ship Logback as an
implementation. Gyrex generally avoids to store configuration
information locally but some bootstrapping is necessary. We decided on
using the instance location only to allow re-using the same
installation/configuration multiple times for different instances. This
is similar to what Eclipse does with different workspaces. Thus, (by
default) things like ZooKeeper connection settings and Logback
configuration are read from the instance location. Log files and other
local data is also written there (by default).
The "context runtime" is what we use to implement multi-tenency. It's in
the kernel because that also affects some of the components in there.
For example, you wan't to be able to diagnose problems related to a
specific tenant. I'm curious about what Virgo plans to implement with
The "Web/Jetty" component is layer on top of that and can be used
separately. It likely completely overlaps with Virgo and/or Gemini Web.
But we are aware of that and looking for possibilities allow at least
The "repositories" component allows to decouple application code from
the actual data source using the "context runtime". For example,
application code asks the context for a repository to store content of
type XYZ (instead of asking for a data source with an id ABC). The
content type decided about the repository type (eg. JDBC data source or
Solr index) es well as the expected content in the repository (eg. a
relational database needs to be prepared with a specific database schema
version). I don't think there is overlap there. That's not part of the
"Gyrex Server" download but provided as an "add-on".
There are also a couple of other (optional) components that Gyrex
provides. A "processing" component allows to queue jobs (Eclipse Jobs
API) which are then executed by worker nodes. A "search" component
offers an integration of Solr. There are also a few more integration
"add-ons" for MongoDB, EclipseLink (Gemini JPA), Jersey JAX-RS and more.