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Re: [virgo-dev] Snaps

Wayne,

Thank you for clarification.  Still learning here. 
That was an initial concern for me.  Would making SNAPS a sub-project allow it to be released and versioned independently from virgo?  From quick reading of http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/development_process_2010.php I could not be sure if that is the case.

What I really want is to do a milestone release.  This will allow interested parties to work with binaries vs. building from sources, thus hopefully bringing more feedback into this component.

Regards,
Dmitry

p.s. Idea of a BAD-BOY qualifier is shelved for now :)

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sorry if I've missed something here.

The EDP does not support the notion of "releasing" parts of projects,
just projects. Further, projects only have one version number per
release. So strictly speaking, SNAPS--as part of Virgo--can be included
in the next release of Virgo with the same version number, but SNAPS
itself cannot release separately (making matters slightly more
complicated, it's okay for individual features/bundles to have whatever
version number makes sense to you).

Having said all that, I am willing to discuss changes to the EDP to
permit this if (a) it really does make sense, and (b) it is accepted by
the broader community and eco-system. I really don't want to put up
unnecessary barriers, and am particularly fond of pulling them down. But
the fact of the matter is that the Eclipse community has successfully
conformed to this particular rule for some time and we'll need some time
to determine if a change makes sense.

Does this make sense?

Wayne

On 12/17/2010 11:59 AM, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
> In that case how about 1.0.0.M01?
>
> 0.9.0 means a lot of changes in the tests and manifests and plans.
>
> I will set-up documentation project and this will keep version stable.
>  How about it?
>
> Thanks
> Dmitry
>
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Glyn Normington
> <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Dmitry
>
>     Of course I forgot to mention the obvious. If we want to release
>     snaps, snaps must go through a release review.
>
>     The alternative, if you simply want to get binaries out there, is to
>     ship (don't use the 'r' word) a milestone such as 0.9.0.M01.
>
>     Regards,
>     Glyn
>
>     On 17 Dec 2010, at 14:45, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
>
>>     Agree.  Bad boy is to be versioned with 0.9.0.RELEASE until
>>     documentation comes online.
>>
>>     I just really think it is time for snaps to have a binary release
>>     and not force users to build from sources.
>>
>>     Hmmm...  What about 0.9.0.RELESE-BAD-BOY.  Would be a valid OSGi
>>     qualifier.  :)
>>
>>     On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Glyn Normington
>>     <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>>         Snaps is not production ready as it doesn't have any
>>         documentation, e.g. to describe the limitations. ;-)
>>
>>         Regards,
>>         Glyn
>>
>>         On 17 Dec 2010, at 14:39, Christopher Frost wrote:
>>
>>>         Hi,
>>>
>>>         Well, seeing as it's still just a bad boy and not a bad man
>>>         yet, how about 0.9.0.RELEASE
>>>
>>>         Unless you feel he's production ready?
>>>
>>>         Chris.
>>>
>>>         On 17/12/2010 14:26, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
>>>>         I am almost there.  Just wondering what version to release
>>>>         that bad boy with?
>>>>
>>>>         1.0.0.RELEASE?
>>>>         2.1.0.RELEASE?
>>>>
>>>>         Regards,
>>>>         Dmitry
>>>>
>>>>         On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Christopher Frost
>>>>         <frostc@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:frostc@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             Yes, this should be easy enough.
>>>>
>>>>             Your welcome to do this yourself Dmitry. Once you have
>>>>             stuck you ssh keys on the eclipse servers, git/build and
>>>>             build as the virgoBuild user. You will be able to do a
>>>>             release, the procedure for releasing a single repo is on
>>>>             the wiki, bottom of the build tab.
>>>>
>>>>             I'm happy to do it as well though, raise a bug if you like.
>>>>
>>>>             Chris.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             On 16/12/2010 08:35, Glyn Normington wrote:
>>>>>             Hi Dmitry
>>>>>
>>>>>             Yes, tag away!
>>>>>
>>>>>             We have weaned ourselves off publishing to zodiac since non-SpringSource committers cannot be given our S3 keys. I'll leave it to Chris, our build meister, to discuss the remaining options...
>>>>>
>>>>>             Regards,
>>>>>             Glyn
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 15 Dec 2010, at 18:59, Dmitry Sklyut wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>             Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Do you think it is time to take a snapshot of snaps and tag it as compatible with 2.1.0.RELEASE?
>>>>>>             It would be great also if snaps got published to some maven/ivy repo.  Right now I can't find it in zodiac.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Building it from source is getting to be a bit cumbersome :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Regards,
>>>>>>             Dmitry
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