Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Prefer proper horizontal ellipsis

["Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The link for Windows
is pretty old (look at the screenshot). The newer version is https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn742402(v=vs.85).aspxand uses three dots. Also when talking about UI text in another section.
This is also what you can see when looking at Windows OS menu labels.

We had an initial
discussion in the  PMC (no decision made). On Mac it is indeed better
to use the ellipses character since it is recommended by the guidelines,
but not so on Windows. One approach could be that SWT chooses the right
thing depending on the OS. That way no client would have to change.

Dani



From:
       Mickael
Istria <mistria@xxxxxxxxxx>
To:
       User
Interface Architecture Working Group <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:
       02.02.2018
17:23
Subject:
       Re:
[ui-best-practices-working-group] Prefer proper horizontal ellipsis (U+2026)
over three dots in "Menu Item..."?
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I have to say that if Babel as troubles
translating (or actually not translating) the ellipsis, it's more a bug
to fix in Babel than a reason to block the discussion so that it's IMO
a point we can ignore.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:17 PM, Daniel
Megert <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
It looks different
than the usual three dots (smaller), i.e. Eclipse labels would look different
than the labels on the OS and other applications.

It's not really consistent across applications,
some do use ellipsis chars, some others use 3 dots.
But that said, there is a unanimous recommendation by OS providers:
Gnome recommends using ellipses https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html.enand all Mozilla software seem to use them in menus; Apple recommends ellipses
https://developer.apple.com/macos/human-interface-guidelines/menus/menu-anatomy/#menu-item-titlesin seems to use it in all its software, and while I didn't find something
explicit about menus ellipses for Windows, this documentation for buttons
also suggests using the ellipses character instead of 3 dots: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb226792(v=vs.85).aspx

So some applications do it wrong, and
it would make Eclipse IDE be different from them, sure. But Eclipse IDE
should follow guidelines instead of taking applications doing it wrong
as examples.
 
-2 from me. I
will bring this up in the Eclipse top-level project PMC call next week
to get a final decision on this for the Platform.

Thanks. Don't forget to include the link
above in the discussion with the PMC ;)
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