Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Notifications

[Aleksandar Kurtakov <akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx>]

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mikaël Barbero" <mikael@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "User Interface Architecture Working Group" <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, 6 October, 2016 10:13:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Notifications
> 
> I'd also prefer SWT-only notifications. User notifications are something you
> would expect from a modern widgets toolkit. Moreover, they are available in
> all windowing systems supported by SWT.
> 
> Maybe the SWT support won't be enough for the platform needs and we will need
> a platform specific API on top of it, but IMO, a pure native implementation
> in SWT is a must have.

FWIW, Mikael and I had a chat about starting to work on POC for GTK and Cocoa. 
For now blocked by [1] for the Cocoa part and by time of course. No schedule for now but it would be interesting to get Win32 knowledable person too.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=502090

> 
> Cheers,
> Mikael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Le 6 oct. 2016 à 06:51, Stefan Xenos < sxenos@xxxxxxxxxx > a écrit :
> 
> (Just to be clear, I'd prefer SWT-only notifications, but I'd gladly take
> Mylyn notifications over the status quo of having no notifications.)
> 
> However, if I'm in a minority and we're going to go directly with Mylyn, bug
> 229823 comment 22 describes a problem in the Mylyn notifications that needs
> to be fixed first.
> 
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=229823#c22
> 
> Also, we should probably have multiple Platform UI developers review the
> Mylyn code since this will be a big chunk of new API that will have to be
> maintained forever.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:45 PM Stefan Xenos < sxenos@xxxxxxxxxx > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Two related bugs:
> 
> Investigation of porting the Mylyn notification framework to Platform UI.
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=229823
> 
> Implement native notifications in SWT.
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=497946
> 
> From the sounds of the initial discussion above, it sounds like everyone here
> likes the idea of native notifications.
> 
> For this reason, I'd argue that we should explore the SWT-only solution first
> and only fall back to the Mylyn approach if the SWT approach turns out to be
> impractical or impossible. If a full SWT solution is possible, the extra
> emulated widgets provided by Mylyn would be unnecessary.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 9:13 PM Aleksandar Kurtakov < akurtako@xxxxxxxxxx >
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Torkild Ulvøy Resheim" < torkildr@xxxxxxxxx >
> > To: "User Interface Architecture Working Group" <
> > ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx >
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 October, 2016 11:30:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Notifications
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I did some playing around, created a dynamic library for sending
> > notifications in macOS and made a small wrapper for it as an Eclipse
> > plug-in[1]. So I’d like to follow up on our discussion and contribute an
> > Mylyn Notifications Sink for native macOS notifications.
> > 
> > So the question remains unanswered, should we do an effort to move Mylyn
> > Notifications to platform?
> 
> Yes please. There are so many places where notifications can be used which
> don't depend on Mylyn.
> 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Torkild
> > 
> > [1] https://twitter.com/torkildr/status/783763597906284548
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