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[Kimberley Peter <kpeter@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Eitan,

When doing UI design for Eclipse, we still optimize for 1024 x 768, as Markus noted. However, when there is a question about how something will size, we will do visual tests (mockups) of the design at a larger size to see how it scales or we wait to see early implementations to see it and make adjustments. This is vague on numbers but the browser display statistics are too: According to w3schools, 36% of the people are using 1024 x 768 and 57% are using higher. The next commonly used size is 1280 x 800 and after that it is 1280 x 1024. Those using display sizes as high as 1900 x 1200 are less than 2% of the population. I am not aware of Eclipse-specific statistics but you might be able to infer those from the larger population statistics.

Taking these numbers back to design, any scaling tests we do tend to be at 1280 wide, and we then see how things go in implementation on displays up to 1900 x 1200. In the really wide cases, you will tend to have a lot white space on the right and you will likely start questioning the use of right-side toolbars. The latter is the bigger revelation as it suggests we should put more common function on the left (reversed in BIDI of course). Web apps are tending toward that.

Hope that sheds some fuzzy light.

Cheers,
Kim

IBM Rational Software
UI Design, Jazz and Collaborative ALM
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"Kurejwowski, Eitan" ---01/20/2010 08:06:10 AM---Thanks for your answer.

From:	"Kurejwowski, Eitan" <eitan.kurejwowski@xxxxxxx>
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Thanks for your answer.
I'm taking care that the IDE is usable at 1024x768 but I want to make it optimal for the most common scenario. Do we know what is the most common screen resolution among Eclipse developers? 

Thanks,
Eitan

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Hi guys,
I have a question, what is the standard resolution for Eclipse developers?

Thanks,
Eitan


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> I have a question, what is the standard resolution for Eclipse 
developers?

I don't think there's an "official" standard resolution, but we should 
always make sure that the IDE is useable with 1024x768, which is the 
default initial size of the workbench window, see 
org.eclipse.ui.internal.WorkbenchWindowConfigurer.initialSize.

It's been like this since 2004, see 
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/platform-ui-dev/msg01814.html

Markus



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