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Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Feedback requested on merge of 3.x with 2.1 guidelines

Hey Kevin,

Yes, #2 simply means having a copy on the wiki and using a different URL
for it than the current one, so that we can continue to use the current one
as the main working document. #1 says we have a copy already in the form of
the article.

Regards,
Kim
...................................................................
UI Design . Rational Software
IBM Toronto Media Design Studio




                                                                                                                                                 
  From:       Kevin McGuire <eclipse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                 
  To:         User Interface Architecture Working Group <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx>                                            
                                                                                                                                                 
  Date:       11/20/2007 11:06 AM                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                                 
  Subject:    Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Feedback requested    on    merge of    3.x with 2.1 guidelines                              
                                                                                                                                                 





If I read correctly Kim, the main difference between #1 and #2 is that in
the latter you just make a copy of the wiki first to preserve for all
prosperity the 2.x state?

#1 seems right approach to me but making a copy first could be prudent.

Kevin

Jin Li wrote:

      I vote for #1.

      When we (Kim and I) created the wiki, it was meant to be a sandbox to
      put v3.x draft up there for early and continuous feedback and solicit
      more input/contribution from the community. If we think some of the
      topics are ready to become official (perhaps we should have done this
      sooner :-), we should promote them to the official place (namely,
      http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-UI-Guidelines/Index.html). I
      would leave the wiki for more draft/input/contribution.

      cheers,

      Jin Li
      IBM Canada Ltd.
      Tel: 905-413-2857
      Fax: 905-413-4974
      Internet: jinli@xxxxxxxxxx



                                                                           
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      I vote for #1.

      Raji Akella
      Lotus Expeditor Development


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      #2 was the ovious choice for me too.

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      Hi all,

      As some of you know from the UIBP call today, I moved the 3.x content
      over
      to the 2.1 document at the bottom. The goal being to have one
      document to
      link the Top Ten (or so) checklist items.

      However, I'm running into a snag and would like your votes.

      Because the UI Graphic section has essentially been fully updated to
      reflect the 3.x style, appending them in full to the bottom makes for
      one
      very large document. Further, folding in the checklist items means a
      checklist of the 2.1 guidelines and a checklist of the 3.x
      guidelines. It's
      messy. I'd like to propose one of the following (please vote and/or
      add
      suggestions):

      1 ::  Instead of appending the updates in the current 2.1 document,
      just
      replace the content sections they apply to and mark them as "new" or
      "3.x
      update". This keeps the same URL and uncomplicates the merge and
      linking.
      Note that there is an existing 2.1 article here:
      http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-UI-Guidelines/Index.html, so
      we
      needn't preserve the wiki one.

      2 :: Take a full copy of the 2.1 and rename that copy with "(old)" or
      something to distinguish and preserve it on the wiki, then continue
      the
      updates in the current 2.1 (with 3.x updates) document. Again, this
      preserves the URL as the most current document we update, and puts
      the 2.1
      document into the background.

      3 :: Leave the current 2.1 as it is, merge its content with the draft
      3.x
      document and point instead to the latter from the Top Ten checklist.

      I favour #2.


      Regards,
      Kim
      ...................................................................
      UI Design . Rational Software
      IBM Toronto Media Design Studio





      From:       "Mik Kersten" <beatmik@xxxxxxx>


      To:         "'User Interface Architecture Working Group'"
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      Date:       11/14/2007 12:20 PM


      Subject:    RE: [ui-best-practices-working-group] Reminder:
      Conference Call:  Wednesday, November 14th,     18:00 UTC or 10:00
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      I could not move a meeting and will unfortunately have to miss this
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      In other news I finally took my pass through the check list:

      205326: Update the checklist for developers
      https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=205326

      Mik

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