Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies" when build

["Oberlies, Tobias" <tobias.oberlies@xxxxxxx>]

Sure. But rather than re-implementing the maven-bundle-plugin in Tycho, I would rather like to improve the collaboration between the Tycho and the maven-bundle-plugin.

I like the idea of doing more things in the normal lifecycle (as discussed here with Niels) - maybe this could also allow to combine the maven-bundle-plugin and Tycho packaging types in the same reactor. I think I will write down my ideas in a bug or wiki page.

Regards
Tobias

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> Sent: 02 August 2011 15:56
> To: tycho-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> when building with tycho?
> 
> Tycho already "processes" source manifest to expand version qualifier,
> so at least in theory nothing stops us from doing the same for
> Import-Package/Require-Bundle attributes.
> 
> --
> Regards,
> Igor
> 
> On 11-08-02 5:45 PM, Oberlies, Tobias wrote:
> > IMHO Tycho should not manipulate sources during the build. Therefore
> Tycho ignore the additional.bundles property (i.e. *not* add these bundles
> to the classpath), but instead require users of this features to press the
> button before they trigger a Tycho build.
> >
> > Regards
> > Tobias
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> >> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> >> Sent: 01 August 2011 14:59
> >> To: tycho-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> >> when building with tycho?
> >>
> >> <quote>
> >> So now, we can either click the analyze dependencies button in the AMD
> >> section of the editor... or we can simply launch our application and
> the
> >> dependencies will be automatically calculated.
> >> </quote>
> >>
> >> So purely based on my development workflow using maven-bundle-plugin, I
> >> assume everyone lets PDE generate bundle manifest before launch and
> >> nobody commits updated manifests to version control systems ;-)
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Igor
> >>
> >> On 11-08-01 4:47 PM, Sievers, Jan wrote:
> >>> hm. What I understood is that additional.bundles defines the flat list
> >> of Bundle-SymbolicName's (no version) which
> >>>
> >>> 1. will be added to the compile classpath
> >>> 2. can be used to manually compute dependencies with the PDE MANIFEST
> >> editor.
> >>>      You do this by clicking "Analyze code and add Dependencies" in
> the
> >> MANIFEST editor
> >>>      and it will add the Require-Bundle or Import-Package statements
> >> needed
> >>>
> >>> If this is true, tycho should just add the dependencies to latest
> >> version of all dependencies listed in additional.bundles to the compile
> >> classpath.
> >>> The user is responsible to make sure the MANIFEST has all dependencies
> >> for resolving at runtime.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Jan
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> >> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko
> >>> Sent: Montag, 1. August 2011 13:59
> >>> To: tycho-user@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of Dependencies"
> >> when building with tycho?
> >>>
> >>> Unless I misunderstood how automatic dependency management works,
> >>> additional.bundles is only half of the puzzle. It tells the tooling
> what
> >>> bundles can be used to look for dependencies, but actual Import-
> Package
> >>> (or Require-Bundle) have to be calculated during the build by
> analyzing
> >>> bundle classes.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Igor
> >>>
> >>> On 11-08-01 3:51 PM, Sievers, Jan wrote:
> >>>> this has been discussed lately on this list:
> >>>> http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tycho-user/msg00518.html
> >>>>
> >>>> support for additional.bundles in build.properties should not be too
> >> hard to add
> >>>> (similar to jars.extra.classpath), from my point of view we just
> don't
> >> have a compelling usecase for it
> >>>> since we don't use additional.bundles.
> >>>>
> >>>> That said, feel free to open a bug and provide a quality patch.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jan
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: tycho-user-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tycho-user-
> >> bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of motes motes
> >>>> Sent: Montag, 1. August 2011 13:37
> >>>> To: Tycho user list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [tycho-user] Using "Automated Management of
> Dependencies"
> >> when building with tycho?
> >>>>
> >>>> Here you go:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/05/29/pdes-automated-management-
> of-
> >> dependencies/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Igor Fedorenko<igor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>> Do you mind providing some links that explain what this feature does
> >> and
> >>>>> what underlying usecase(s) it solves?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Igor
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 11-08-01 3:08 PM, motes motes wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In an eclipse plugin its possible to specify dependencies using the
> >>>>>> Automated Management of Dependencies (AMD) which basically is the
> >> same
> >>>>>> as plain dependency management except that the dependencies are not
> >>>>>> written to the MANIFEST file. When building with PDE build this
> works
> >>>>>> fine but when building with tycho I often need to add some of the
> >>>>>> dependencies from the AMD either to imported packages or required
> or
> >> I
> >>>>>> get compilations errors (Access restriction ...)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do you guys avoid using AMD or are there plans for better support
> of
> >>>>>> AMD when building with tycho (currently I use 0.12.0)?
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