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[tptp-pmc] AG meeting minutes May 5, 2006


Attending:
Mark D. Weitzel, Mark Dunn, Valentina Popescu, Alex Nan, Marius Slavescu, Harm Sluiman, Joseph Toomey
Duwayne Morris, Paul Slauenwhite, Dave Smith, Hubert H Leung, Samson, Eugene, Sri, Ernest Jesse
Guru, Hendra, Ali, Navid, Kent

No outstanding topics from preview meetings and no announcements.

Requested topics:

Paul - test agents and general event processing.
defect # 139557
logging more than one event type via an agent is handled differently depending on which TPTP agent you are using. In this case anything more than execution events in the test execution environments are lost. There is a more basic issues around what happens in error conditions. Kent/Ernest raised the point that multi data processor scenario has value as well as variable event formats. Recently we have been reducing the tight coupling between agent names, types and data types and this change also affects this problem
Ideally all TPTP data processors should be able to handle any valid or invalid events or data, and the views should be activated based on model content, with the configured types providing hints about the default list of views available.
Contact Paul asap if you wish to participate in the discussion to resolve these issues.

Sri -new about and lic. templates
Sri and Hubert will run with this issue. We will publish a list of 3rd party content and Hubert will look into where we have unique content for the RAC

Marius - Xerces
We are no sharing common plugins with other projects and WTP is sharing a Xerces plugin. We agreed to become dependant on this component and remove our code that was testing for the presence of various packages and using alternate code paths for each.

Marius/Hendra - 1.5 support
Everyone is still building to target a 1.4 environment, however we need to test in both a 1.4 and 1.5 environment. In the case of the profiler we do not exploit 1.5 or have any 1.5 feature support, but we do need to tolerate it.
Apparently we have not been testing a 1.5 execution environment and this will have to be addressed in the near future.

Marius - multiple profiler problem
When Yourkit is installed in the same workbench as Callisto both the yourkit agent is enabled but the TPTP views are activated, so neither profiler is functional.
There is a basic launch configuration limitation issue that has always existed. A defect will be opened/tracked by Marius  137057 to pursue this problem with the workbench.
Even if that worked, there is a basic issue of the JVMs would not support tow PI agents at the same time anyway. This will become more frequent when vendors and debuggers all move to the new JVM TI interfaces which will also have to deal with this multiplexing. Ali will investigate the projected problems with TI and open features accordingly to get the dialogs started now to avoid the problems down the road.
In the meantime there is little we can do.

Alex - problems arising from bidi testing
During TVT testing we found problems with bidi testing. _expression_ builders do no always render expressions correctly and a bidi _expression_ doesn't seem to run. This may be a user or engine problem. This may be a blocking problem and will be  




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