tptp-pmc http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/maillist.html tptp-pmc en-us Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:20:24 GMT Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:20:24 GMT http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss MHonArc RSS 2.0 RCFile webmaster@eclipse.org (Webmaster) webmaster@eclipse.org (Webmaster) tptp-pmc http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse.org-common/themes/Phoenix/images/eclipse_home_header.jpg http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/maillist.html [tptp-pmc] TPTP is no longer functioning as a top level project http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06090.html Greetings Tools and TPTP PMC-type folks. TPTP is no longer functioning as a top-level project. The PMC is a PMC of one that is unable to provide any useful guidance to the project. I have opened a bug [1] to start the process of retiring the TPTP top-leve... Greetings Tools and TPTP PMC-type folks.

TPTP is no longer functioning as a top-level project. The PMC is a PMC of one that is unable to provide any useful guidance to the project.

I have opened a bug [1] to start the process of retiring the TPTP top-level project and moving its assets under Tools.

I believe that this can be done with very little disruption to the development team or community. The short version is that I'd like to roll the existing three subprojects up into a single tools.tptp project. No source repositories or download directories will have to move. Some minor changes will be required for Bugzilla and IPZilla. Due to the structure of the website--with subprojects nested under the top-level project--little change is required there.

Time-wise, I'd like to get this done in May so that we can start the process of migrating the source repositories to Git.

Thoughts, concerns, problems, +1s?

Thanks,

Wayne

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377692
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]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:14:17 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06090.html wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) Re: [tptp-pmc] The future of TPTP http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06089.html TPTP Platform is basically useless without any of the consuming projects (Profiling, Testing and the already archived Monitoring), of which testing is the one and only I would like to support and keep around in the future. Regarding the point of moving pr... We need to migrate to Git. CVS support is disappearing.

The webmaster team is quite good at doing Git migrations. They can convert the existing repositories into Git repositories without any input from us.

The moving forward challenge is to adapt the existing build and day-to-day development to Git.

How much effort will it be to adapt the build process?

Is this an opportunity to maybe look at adopting Hudson/Maven/Tycho for builds?

Wayne

On 03/25/2012 05:24 PM, Torsten Stolpmann wrote:
On 21.03.2012 19:55, Wayne Beaton wrote:
It looks like the TPTP Platform project is alive and thriving. However,
Profiling and Testing seem to be stagnant.

TPTP is effectively a PMC with one member containing a single active
project with a single committer. There doesn't seem to be any prospect
of this changing any time soon.

Is it time to consider moving TPTP Platform to Tools and archive the rest?


TPTP Platform is basically useless without any of the consuming projects (Profiling, Testing and the already archived Monitoring), of which testing is the one and only I would like to support and keep around in the future.

Regarding the point of moving projects around in the eclipse project space:

While being a single person top-level project may sound like fun it really is not and has never been intended, as the situation has been inherited as it is. I can understand that this may seem odd to others and is probably not in line of what one would expect from a Eclipse top level project.

Personally I really don't care where in the hierarchy this project ends up, the only thing I care about is the additional effort generated by such a move.

For the near future, the amount of time I am able to invest in this project is limited. From my personal point of view, any effort going into this move will be missing elsewhere without being of any use in regard to the project itself.

While we are at it, same goes for the effort of changing the currently working build environment to support Git which is not the trivial move it may seem.

I can see no benefit for this very project, though I am aware of and appreciate the community related benefits of the Git move and the need for a general policy.

With CVS being retired in favour of Git, it may make sense to combine
these efforts. Thoughts?


There is not noticeable difference between moving one or all projects to Git as TPTP is basically one monolithic block of tightly interacting build scripts.

Torsten,
TPTP Project Lead

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]]> Thu, 29 Mar 2012 03:57:48 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06089.html wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) Re: [tptp-pmc] The future of TPTP http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06088.html TPTP Platform is basically useless without any of the consuming projects (Profiling, Testing and the already archived Monitoring), of which testing is the one and only I would like to support and keep around in the future. Regarding the point of moving pro... On 21.03.2012 19:55, Wayne Beaton wrote: 
It looks like the TPTP Platform project is alive and thriving. However,
Profiling and Testing seem to be stagnant.

TPTP is effectively a PMC with one member containing a single active
project with a single committer. There doesn't seem to be any prospect
of this changing any time soon.

Is it time to consider moving TPTP Platform to Tools and archive the rest?


TPTP Platform is basically useless without any of the consuming projects (Profiling, Testing and the already archived Monitoring), of which testing is the one and only I would like to support and keep around in the future.

Regarding the point of moving projects around in the eclipse project space:

While being a single person top-level project may sound like fun it really is not and has never been intended, as the situation has been inherited as it is. I can understand that this may seem odd to others and is probably not in line of what one would expect from a Eclipse top level project.

Personally I really don't care where in the hierarchy this project ends up, the only thing I care about is the additional effort generated by such a move.

For the near future, the amount of time I am able to invest in this project is limited. From my personal point of view, any effort going into this move will be missing elsewhere without being of any use in regard to the project itself.

While we are at it, same goes for the effort of changing the currently working build environment to support Git which is not the trivial move it may seem.

I can see no benefit for this very project, though I am aware of and appreciate the community related benefits of the Git move and the need for a general policy.

With CVS being retired in favour of Git, it may make sense to combine
these efforts. Thoughts?


There is not noticeable difference between moving one or all projects to Git as TPTP is basically one monolithic block of tightly interacting build scripts.

Torsten,
TPTP Project Lead

Wayne
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]]> Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:25:02 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06088.html stolpmann@xxxxxxx (Torsten Stolpmann) Re: [tptp-pmc] The future of TPTP http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06087.html objections to welcoming TPTP back to Tools ... didn't it start there? From: Wayne Beaton &lt;wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt; To: &quot;TPTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)&quot; &lt;tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, Date: 03/21/2012 02:56 PM Sub... >From the Tool PMC point of view, I don't think there would be any objections to welcoming TPTP back to Tools ... didn't it start there? From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "TPTP PMC communications (including coordination, announcements, and Group discussions)" <tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Date: 03/21/2012 02:56 PM Subject: [tptp-pmc] The future of TPTP Sent by: tptp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx It looks like the TPTP Platform project is alive and thriving. However, Profiling and Testing seem to be stagnant. TPTP is effectively a PMC with one member containing a single active project with a single committer. There doesn't seem to be any prospect of this changing any time soon. Is it time to consider moving TPTP Platform to Tools and archive the rest? With CVS being retired in favour of Git, it may make sense to combine these efforts. Thoughts? Wayne -- Wayne Beaton The Eclipse Foundation Twitter: @waynebeaton EclipseCon 2012AGILEALM 2012 _______________________________________________ tptp-pmc mailing list tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/tptp-pmc ]]> Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:07:11 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06087.html david_williams@xxxxxxx (David M Williams) [tptp-pmc] The future of TPTP http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06086.html It looks like the TPTP Platform project is alive and thriving. However, Profiling and Testing seem to be stagnant. TPTP is effectively a PMC with one member containing a single active project with a single committer. There doesn't seem to be any prospect ... It looks like the TPTP Platform project is alive and thriving. However, Profiling and Testing seem to be stagnant.

TPTP is effectively a PMC with one member containing a single active project with a single committer. There doesn't seem to be any prospect of this changing any time soon.

Is it time to consider moving TPTP Platform to Tools and archive the rest?

With CVS being retired in favour of Git, it may make sense to combine these efforts. Thoughts?

Wayne
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]]> Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:55:52 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06086.html wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) Re: [tptp-pmc] tptp-pmc Digest, Vol 77, Issue 5 http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06085.html Hi Wayne, Thanks for your reply. I've already tested MAT but it only helps for out of memory errors, and TPTP was the only one in the market place that would help me on RCP performance. I'll fit with the last plugins of TPTP, I was just wondering if someth... Hi Wayne, Thanks for your reply. I've already tested MAT but it only helps for out of memory errors, and TPTP was the only one in the market place that would help me on RCP performance. I'll fit with the last plugins of TPTP, I was just wondering if something else was on track for the next releases of Eclipse. Thanks again, Tanguy MEZZANO R&D Software Developer MACQ Traffic & Automation Macq sa Rue de l'Aéronef, 2 - 1140 Bruxelles - Belgique T +32 (0) 2 610 15 85 - F +32 (0) 2 610 15 05 tanguy.mezzano@xxxxxxx - www.macq.eu > -----Message d'origine----- > De : tptp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tptp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] > De la part de tptp-pmc-request@xxxxxxxxxxx > Envoyé : mardi 10 janvier 2012 18:00 > À : tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Objet : tptp-pmc Digest, Vol 77, Issue 5 > > Send tptp-pmc mailing list submissions to > tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/tptp-pmc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tptp-pmc-request@xxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tptp-pmc-owner@xxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: > Contents of tptp-pmc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Indigo performance (Wayne Beaton) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 13:27:02 -0500 > From: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [tptp-pmc] Indigo performance > Message-ID: <4F0B3176.2070905@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > TPTP does not need to be on the release train to be useful for performance > work. The project and downloads are still available for consumption. Be > advised that there has been very little work done on the profiler over the > past year. > > As for alternatives, there are a few listed in the Eclipse Marketplace [1]. > > The Memory Analyzer [2] might also be helpful. > > HTH, > > Wayne > > [1] http://marketplace.eclipse.org/search/apachesolr_search/performance > [2] http://eclipse.org/mat/ > > > On 01/09/2012 09:49 AM, Tanguy TM. 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Mezzano) Re: [tptp-pmc] Indigo performance http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06084.html -- Wayne Beaton The Eclipse Foundation Twitter: @waynebeaton TPTP does not need to be on the release train to be useful for performance work. The project and downloads are still available for consumption. Be advised that there has been very little work done on the profiler over the past year.

As for alternatives, there are a few listed in the Eclipse Marketplace [1].

The Memory Analyzer [2] might also be helpful.

HTH,

Wayne

[1] http://marketplace.eclipse.org/search/apachesolr_search/performance
[2] http://eclipse.org/mat/


On 01/09/2012 09:49 AM, Tanguy TM. Mezzano wrote:

Dear,
 
I just read that TPTP will not be part of Indigo train release, as I am currently facing Indigo RCP performance issues, could you tell if there is another package/tool that is the most convenient for me to use? Or is TPTP still the one to go?
 
Kind regards,

 

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]]> Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:27:03 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06084.html wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) [tptp-pmc] Indigo performance http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06083.html Dear, I just read that TPTP will not be part of Indigo train release, as I am currently facing Indigo RCP performance issues, could you tell if there is another package/tool that is the most convenient for me to use? Or is TPTP still the one to go? p; K...

Dear,
 
I just read that TPTP will not be part of Indigo train release, as I am currently facing Indigo RCP performance issues, could you tell if there is another package/tool that is the most convenient for me to use? Or is TPTP still the one to go?
 
Kind regards,

 

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]]> Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:49:55 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06083.html Tanguy.Mezzano@xxxxxxx (Tanguy TM. Mezzano) Re: [tptp-pmc] TPTP on indigo http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06082.html Hi Anis,
speaking as the 'some interest from someone', I am currently taking care of the TPTP project as both project lead and currently sole active committer of the project.

As literally all of the previous committers left the project last year, it has not been possible yet to keep up with the release train activities for Indigo, even with the occasional support of some active contributors out here.

Although not yet set in stone, future versions of TPTP will most probably continue to not contain all subprojects of the previous versions (Version 4.7 has already archived the monitoring subproject).

The main focus is currently on the testing subproject, while the profiling project will have to be archived as well, due to a lack of resources and active contributors/committers in this area.

So if you interested in taking care of this part of the project you are more than welcome to join forces here, be it as a contributor or active committer.

I am sure Wayne Beaton as the PMC of this project can provide you with all necessary information on the process side of things to do that.

Torsten Stolpmann,
TPTP Project Lead

P.S.: Thanks David, for your precise summary and jumping in on the discussion

On 05.01.2012 08:29, David M Williams wrote: 

I'm sure other can give better information than I, after they get back from
holidays and get "caught up" with email, etc., but, yes, the TPTP project
was sort-of, nearly cancelled and archived after Helios (that is, not in
Indigo). See

http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/project_info/devplans/EclipseTPTPProjectPlan2010.htm

I say "sort-of, nearly" since it was going to be archived, then there was
some interest from someone (sorry, don't remember who) in keeping part of
it alive, and from there, I do believe it stalled. No progress one way or
the other. I suspect if you were interested enough to "revive" some subset
of the project, that others could tell you the right process to follow (I
suspect it would take just a short proposal spelling what you would
propose, who (how many) would do it, etc. But, that's for others to say.

There is no substitute for it that I am aware of, but easily could be ...
there are so many projects at Eclipse its hard to keep track of them all.

There is RAT, http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.rat,
which _might_ be related to what you want to do, but that is a stalled
project too, as far as I can tell.
Now, for Memory Analysis, there is the MAT project,
http://www.eclipse.org/mat/, which I think is quite strong, many users,
several releases, etc. but from the little I know, that doesn't sound like
what you are looking for.

I'm sure others with more current knowledge will comment here eventually
(in next week or two).

Good luck,






From:	Anis Yousefi<yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:	tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx,
Date:	01/03/2012 04:03 PM
Subject:	[tptp-pmc] TPTP on indigo
Sent by:	tptp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx



Hi,

I am writing to you with regard to the TPTP project. I am wondering why it
is no longer part of eclipse and If there's a substitute for that in
Indigo? Specifically I am interested in tracing using TPTP Probekit.

Thanks,
Anis


       Begin forwarded message:

             From: Kathy Chan<kathy@xxxxxxxxxx>
             Date: December 13, 2011 9:49:31 AM EST
             To: Anis Yousefi<yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
             Cc: Oliver Cole<oec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx,
             stolpmann@xxxxxxxx
             Subject: Re: TPTP on indigo

             Hi Anis,

             You are correct that TPTP is currently not supporting Indigo.
             We had a change of leadership in the TPTP project as indicated
             on the mailing list earlier this year.  As such, the original
             set of committers and PMC members (including myself and Oliver)
             are no longer working on the TPTP project.  For further project
             inquiries, please send a note to the tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
             mailing list.  The current TPTP PMC should be able to provide
             you with the up-to-date outlook on their plans.

             As noted in the TPTP web site, the current PMC lead for the
             project is Wayne Beaton and the project lead for the TPTP
             sub-projects is Torsten Stolpmann.

             Regards,
             Kathy Chan
             IBM Canada Lab

             kathy@xxxxxxxxxx



  From:         Oliver Cole<oec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

  To:           Anis Yousefi<yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx>

  Cc:           Kathy Chan/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA

  Date:         12/13/2011 08:59 AM

  Subject:      Re: TPTP on indigo








                Hi Anis (and Kathy):

                  Please check out the TPTP home page for the current status
             of
             TPTP.  (www.eclipse.org/tptp).

             --oec

             On 12/13/2011 8:36 AM, Anis Yousefi wrote:
             >  Hi There,
             >
             >  I was wondering why TPTP is no longer part of eclipse? Does
             this mean we need to use a different tracing tool for Java
             projects?
             >
             >  Regards,
             >  Anis

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]]> Sat, 07 Jan 2012 17:34:18 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06082.html stolpmann@xxxxxxx (Torsten Stolpmann) Re: [tptp-pmc] TPTP on indigo http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06081.html &gt; Hi There, &gt; &gt; I was wondering why TPTP is no longer part of eclipse? Does this mean we need to use a different tracing tool for Java projects? &gt; &gt; Regards, &gt; Anis -- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver E Cole o... I'm sure other can give better information than I, after they get back from holidays and get "caught up" with email, etc., but, yes, the TPTP project was sort-of, nearly cancelled and archived after Helios (that is, not in Indigo). See http://www.eclipse.org/tptp/home/project_info/devplans/EclipseTPTPProjectPlan2010.htm I say "sort-of, nearly" since it was going to be archived, then there was some interest from someone (sorry, don't remember who) in keeping part of it alive, and from there, I do believe it stalled. No progress one way or the other. I suspect if you were interested enough to "revive" some subset of the project, that others could tell you the right process to follow (I suspect it would take just a short proposal spelling what you would propose, who (how many) would do it, etc. But, that's for others to say. There is no substitute for it that I am aware of, but easily could be ... there are so many projects at Eclipse its hard to keep track of them all. There is RAT, http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.rat, which _might_ be related to what you want to do, but that is a stalled project too, as far as I can tell. Now, for Memory Analysis, there is the MAT project, http://www.eclipse.org/mat/, which I think is quite strong, many users, several releases, etc. but from the little I know, that doesn't sound like what you are looking for. I'm sure others with more current knowledge will comment here eventually (in next week or two). Good luck, From: Anis Yousefi <yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx, Date: 01/03/2012 04:03 PM Subject: [tptp-pmc] TPTP on indigo Sent by: tptp-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx Hi, I am writing to you with regard to the TPTP project. I am wondering why it is no longer part of eclipse and If there's a substitute for that in Indigo? Specifically I am interested in tracing using TPTP Probekit. Thanks, Anis Begin forwarded message: From: Kathy Chan <kathy@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: December 13, 2011 9:49:31 AM EST To: Anis Yousefi <yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Oliver Cole <oec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx, stolpmann@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: TPTP on indigo Hi Anis, You are correct that TPTP is currently not supporting Indigo. We had a change of leadership in the TPTP project as indicated on the mailing list earlier this year. As such, the original set of committers and PMC members (including myself and Oliver) are no longer working on the TPTP project. For further project inquiries, please send a note to the tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx mailing list. The current TPTP PMC should be able to provide you with the up-to-date outlook on their plans. As noted in the TPTP web site, the current PMC lead for the project is Wayne Beaton and the project lead for the TPTP sub-projects is Torsten Stolpmann. Regards, Kathy Chan IBM Canada Lab kathy@xxxxxxxxxx From: Oliver Cole <oec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Anis Yousefi <yousea2@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Kathy Chan/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA Date: 12/13/2011 08:59 AM Subject: Re: TPTP on indigo Hi Anis (and Kathy): Please check out the TPTP home page for the current status of TPTP. (www.eclipse.org/tptp). --oec On 12/13/2011 8:36 AM, Anis Yousefi wrote: > Hi There, > > I was wondering why TPTP is no longer part of eclipse? Does this mean we need to use a different tracing tool for Java projects? > > Regards, > Anis -- -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Oliver E Cole oec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx OC Systems www.ocsystems.com 10521 Rosehaven Street, Suite 210 (v) 703.359.8160 x160 Fairfax, VA, 22030 (f) 703.359.8161 _______________________________________________ tptp-pmc mailing list tptp-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/tptp-pmc ]]> Thu, 05 Jan 2012 07:29:17 GMT http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/tptp-pmc/msg06081.html david_williams@xxxxxxx (David M Williams)