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Re: [tools-pmc] [CQ 8768] flex 2.5.39- as "works with" exception to full IP review

Well... we do have a lot of documentation...

Grouping is more of a convenience. It's not required, but--rather--an attempt to make it easy to identify a large number of build and test dependencies without having to create a whole bunch of CQs.

There's no reason to consolidate now. In fact, consolidating will just make more work for everybody.

This is an example of something that we need to do a better job of disseminating to save everybody some time and energy. It's on my list (but has been for a while, unfortunately).

Frankly, it's the PMC's job to "pre-screen" CQs for the IP Team. In the case of a works-with or exempt pre-req designation, the IP Team depends on the PMC to make sure that the request makes technical sense and to best of the PMC's ability determine that it fits the definition.

HTH,

Wayne


On 07/10/14 02:30 PM, David M Williams wrote:
Thanks Wayne, not sure I was aware of that document ... or ... I was aware but have forgotten.

The part of that document that I like best is "Test and build dependencies may be grouped together in a single contribution questionnaire (CQ) "  :)

Perhaps the IP Team can help "pre-screen" CQs and direct projects to do that grouping, if in fact the project agrees  the rest of the conditions are met (i.e. not distributed, not in scm, open source only, on build machine only, etc.). It would have made it easier in this case to know what to review real carefully ... and which were almost automatically ok (I guess the PMC then just has to sanity check, that it is "open source", etc. -- I don't know, there might be other cases of "incompatible licenses" ... but, don't think that is PMC's responsibility to catch).

Elemér, I don't mean to cause you even more work than you've done already ... which, is a lot! But, it might help to have your "build and test only, not distributed" items "grouped" in one CQ, if you think it'd help you (and us) keep track of "current status".

Thanks again,




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Date:        10/07/2014 02:11 PM
Subject:        Re: [tools-pmc] [CQ 8768] flex 2.5.39- as "works with" exception to full IP review
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FYI,

https://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/IP/Test_and_Build_Dependencies

TL;DR: Build and test dependencies can be classified as "works with"

Wayne

On 07/10/14 12:12 AM, David M Williams wrote:
Same as Bison, if this is a development time dependency only, not checked into Git, and not distributed, then sounds ok as "works with", to me.
(I'm not even sure "development time only" dependencies are technically "works with", or ... if there is some better classification ... but, I believe as long as not put in Git repo, and not distributed with project, that there are not many limits on "development time only" tools.)




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Date:        10/03/2014 03:41 PM
Subject:        [tools-pmc] [CQ 8768] flex 2.5.39- as "works with" exception to        full IP review
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http://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8768


Sharon Corbett
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