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[tools-pmc] RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap

Philippe,

I agree. I've talked to the Tools PMC leader and he and I are very
interested in doing what we can to get new committers and new community
pushing this project forward.

So who wants to put their name forward as a potential new committer for this
project? Please respond on this list, with a cc to the Tools PMC list.

Mike Milinkovich
Office: +1.613.224.9461 x228
Mobile: +1.613.220.3223
mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philippe Ombredanne [mailto:pombredanne@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 7:30 PM
> To: 'Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse. '
> Cc: emo@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Bjorn Freeman-Benson';
> mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx; Doug Schaefer
> Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> 
> Benbenek, Waldyn J wrote:
> >A number of us have been updating the COBOL Tool kit on our own.
> >There was a set of fixes offered over the list serve to update to make
> it
> work with 3.2.
> >3.3 had a few adjustments as well.  The committers have been unwilling
> to
> formally integrate
> >the changes and release a new version.
> I think this is completely unacceptable from the Cobol project to be un
> responsive to the community.
> I am escalating that the the Eclipse management.
> 
> >Currently, we have our own version running.  All we really care about
> is
> the editor
> >and we have made a number of fixes to that.  The COBOL feature is
> heavily
> oriented
> >to Fujitsu COBOL and the committers don't seem to want to change that
> either.
> At that stage, lets wait and see what can happen, but a project take-
> over
> (or fork within Eclipse) could be a solution.
> Would you guys be willing to step up there (ie Amdocs and Unisys) ?
> As an Eclipse committer, I have been more than annoyed to see the way
> this
> Cobol project has been led, and its lack of leadership.
> Cordially
> --
> Cheers
> Philippe
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alexander
> > Troyanovsky
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:25 AM
> > To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse.
> > Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> >
> >
> > Thank you all for your replies. It helped me a lot.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------
> > ------------
> > Alexander Troyanovsky
> > Portfolio Development Unit - Foundations
> > Amdocs System Configurator (ASC), Tiger (ADDM), Fox
> > (DB-Schema), Amdocs IDE Raanana, Israel.
> > +972-9-7760045 (desk)
> > +972-52-6815400 (cell)
> > AMDOCS > CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE SYSTEMS INNOVATION
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Benbenek, Waldyn
> J
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 7:11 PM
> > To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse.
> > Subject: RE: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> >
> > A number of us have been updating the COBOL Tool kit on our
> > own.  There was a set of fixes offered over the list serve to
> > update to make it work with 3.2.  3.3 had a few adjustments
> > as well.  The committers have been unwilling to formally
> > integrate the changes and release a new version.
> >
> > Currently, we have our own version running.  All we really
> > care about is the editor and we have made a number of fixes
> > to that.  The COBOL feature is heavily oriented to Fujitsu
> > COBOL and the committers don't seem to want to change that either.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Waldyn Benbenek
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:cobol-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jd@xxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 1:55 AM
> > To: Development discussions about the COBOL IDE for Eclipse.
> > Subject: Re: [cobol-dev] plug-in roadmap
> >
> > Hello Alexander,
> >
> > as far as I know the windows plug-in never worked. I am currently
> > investigating into the Linux plug-in, but there is incompatibility of
> > framework 3.2 and  plugin, which is older. You should also know, that
> > there is no such thing as a free compiler or debugger for
> > COBOL. This is
> >
> > different from the C++ project. There is not much hope for a
> > free version
> > of an IDE as you can see from the number of replies. I wonder
> > if Eclipse
> >
> > works for AIX or UX - it is a matter of the manufacturers.
> > Which is your
> >
> > target machine? Also consider different dialects of the ANSI language
> > standard. I am working on a COBOL IDE and need some help Till
> > works. The
> >
> > path for Columbo is: a) OS command line tool b) windows IDE
> > c) Eclipse IDE
> > d) other machines and languages.
> >
> > Regards
> > Jens
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