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Re: [tm-dev] Terminal - Tabs versus not

> I’d like someone to explain why they like tabs-in-a-view when views
> are already tabs.  I see the point of tabs in something like the
> manifest editor, because you have different views of a single data
> model, but terminals are independent of each other, so it seems
> pointless to add another layer of tabs.

There are a few reasons:
- if you have many terminals open, then the view space is limited
  and you have a hard time finding the terminal you are looking for,
  because the title is cut off.
- when you switch perspectives, secondary views are not easy to get
  into another perspective.
  For example: pin a search or console and open another one. How to
  get both views into another perspective????

With a terminal with tabs, you just say show terminal in another perspective
and you have *all* your terminals. If you want a terminal specific to that
perspective you may open a secondary terminal view (if that is supported).

But I believe that eclipse is really weak at dealing with multiple instances
of the same view. I don't know if there is a solution of that view restriction
in e4.

Michael

On 2015-01-07 23:04, Greg Watson wrote:

Greg

On Jan 7, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Doug Schaefer <DSchaefer@xxxxxxx <mailto:DSchaefer@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hey gang, to get the conversation rolling towards technical solutions, I’d like to bring up the use of tabs as done by the TCF Terminal.

After a lot of though about it, I think I’m warming up to the idea. It does solve one problem well, but leads to others that I hope we can solve.

The real issue is when you open the Terminals View, there isn’t a connection defined yet. The users needs to be guided towards opening a connection. The lack of tabs is much more obvious than in the TM terminal which more subtly says No
Connection in pretty small text.

Also if we’re going to put multiple terminals into a view, then the tabs are a better way of doing that. But I do wish these tabs had the same behaviour as View tabs. I’d like to be able to re-order them, and to easily pop them out of the
View and into a new View either in the same page or into their own window. If you have multiple monitors, it might be nice to be able to pop terminals into their own shell.

Love to hear other’s opinions on the two views what the like or don’t like about each.
Thanks!
Doug.
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