RE: [technology-pmc] Re: Sapphire Mentors Selected

["yves (yingmin) yang" <yves.yang@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Konstantin,

Through the link you provided, it seems t me that Sapphire is much close to
XWT than PMF. 

Comparing to XWT, Sapphire uses Java annotation to declare the data binding
and XML for UI definition. XWT has a clear separation between the business
model and UI aspects including the data binding, it keeps the business model
unchanged and it can be used by multiples UI presentation.

Comparing to PMF, Sapphire is a developer centric solution, and it targets
only Java programming language. PMF is more generic solution, it is
independent from programming language, data model and UI technology.

Both XWT and PMF are designed for building the tools easily. 

I'd like more description in your proposal regarding XWT and PMF. 

By the way, you are welcome to join XWT and PMF to make a common solution. 

Best regards
Yves YANG
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantin
Komissarchik
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:48 AM
To: 'Technology PMC'
Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] Re: Sapphire Mentors Selected

Now unlike XWT, PMF is tackling the same problem as Sapphire, but as you
will see once you've read the link that I sent earlier, the approaches are
quite different. 

We can discuss Sapphire/PMF comparison further if you wish, but I would much
rather do that on the forum as I stated in the previous e-mail. The Tech PMC
can read the forum just as well as this mailing list, but e-mails sent to
this list aren't as easily accessible to everyone else interested in this
technology.

Thanks,

- Konstantin


-----Original Message-----
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yves.yang@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:14 PM
To: Technology PMC
Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] Re: Sapphire Mentors Selected

And there is another project PMF to deal with UI in a modeling and total
abstraction way. It targets to support all kinds of data sources and UI
technologies.

Best regards
Yves YANG
> Hi PMC,
>
> I just wonder the relation with XWT, which is part of e4 and it implements
> already most of features proposed. I think the overlap is too important.
>
> Best regards
> Yves YANG
>> Hello Konstantin,
>>
>> The update has been done. Thanks!
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/sapphire/
>>
>> Anne Jacko
>> emo@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Anne,
>>>
>>> Tom Schindl and Neil Hauge have agreed to mentor Sapphire project
>>> per EDP requirements.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=318523
>>>
>>> I am attaching an updated project proposal that lists them as
>>> mentors. This update also includes a section with links to external
>>> resources helpful in learning more about Sapphire. Please post this
>>> version when you get a chance.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> - Konstantin
>>> <proposal.html>
>>
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