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RE: [technology-pmc] Fwd: Maynstall project status

+1 

Adding Neil.

-----Original Message-----
From: technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Rizzo
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:48 AM
To: Technology PMC
Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] Fwd: Maynstall project status

If there's no more PMC feedback by this afternoon (EST) then I'm going 
to propose this to the Maynstall team (Tim Webb).


Chris Aniszczyk wrote:
> +1 that seems reasonable.
> 
> Can a proposal be fleshed out for the code that is useful within 
> Maynstall so it can be moved somewhere?
> 
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Eric Rizzo <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     Fellow PMC members,
>     I recently noticed that the Maynstall project was withering and
>     inquired with the dev list about its status. Below is the response I
>     received.
>     My inclination is to recommend the project be archived, with the
>     data access part he speaks of being offered to the Dali project for
>     possible absorption.
>     Since I'm still pretty unfamiliar of the details of the Eclipse
>     Development Process, I'm seeking your opinions before speaking on
>     behalf of the PMC.
> 
>     Eric
> 
> 
>     -------- Original Message --------
>     Subject:        Re: Project status
>     Date:   Fri, 7 Aug 2009 12:24:29 -0500
>     From:   Tim Webb <tim@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxx>>
>     To:     Eric Rizzo <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>     CC:     maynstall-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:maynstall-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>     References:     <4A7B354C.2070700@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:4A7B354C.2070700@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> 
> 
> 
>     Eric,
> 
>     There is the long and short answer, as there always seems to be.
> 
>     The short answer is Maynstall as it stands today does not have an active
>     contribution base and is not what I would consider an active project.
> 
>     For the long answer, there are aspects of Maynstall, specifically
>     regarding a way of accessing a remote JPA data model that we make use of
>     on our own commercial product and once every six months have a small CVS
>     commit to keep it going.  This area I believe has interesting value to
>     the community though the Maynstall project as it stands now does not
>     represent that correctly -- the data model access was a fall out
>     technology from the integration, not a key component to the initial
>     contribution.  I previously spoke at EclipseWorld/EclipseCon with Doug
>     Clark over on EclipseLink to see about the possibility of aligning a
>     subset of the services in Maynstall over in that area.  The provisioning
>     side of Maynstall was largely displaced with the introduction of p2;
>     even on my own commercial offering we needed to stop using Maynstall for
>     any provisioning and switch entirely to p2 for consistency with the
>     community.
> 
>     As always I'm open to suggestions from others who were originally named
>     committers on the project.
> 
>     Cheers,
>     Tim
> 
>     On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Eric Rizzo
>     <eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>     <mailto:eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>     <mailto:eclipse-mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> 
>        Hi, this is Eric Rizzo of the Technology PMC. While reviewing the
>        projects under the Technology umbrella, I've noticed that Maynstall
>        seems to be inactive. The newsgroup has no messages for almost a year
>        and the web site and wiki do not appear to have been updated in
>     quite a
>        while. The mailing list has not responded to recent inquiries,
>     either.
> 
>        What is the status of the project? We need to have a response
>     from the
>        project lead and/or other team members ASAP.
> 
>        Thanks,
>        Eric

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