[technology-pmc] Re: [actf-dev] ACTF community development

[Kentarou Fukuda <KENTAROU@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Wayne,

Thank you very much for your suggestions and comments. 

About the community development, the ACTF co-leads are working to get more 
members from academic and industrial area . For example, with community 
member's support, they plan to hold a workshop for the ACTF at an academic 
conference. Unfortunately, Chieko, ACTF co-lead, is on a business trip 
now.  However, they will respond to you with more details soon.

>From the viewpoint of the development work, we are moving forward step by 
step.

First, to make the discussions of the ACTF plans and architecture more 
active, we started a monthly teleconference call from June. We'll try to 
link actf-dev ML and bugzilla more closely, and will make the project 
enhancement process more transparent.

Currently, the IBM team is reporting many bugs to refine the IBM-developed 
code to meet the Eclipse quality standards. At the same time, however, we 
added several enhancements based on community requirements (bugs [226428, 
233615, 236969, 237061], etc.). These were small steps, but we'll work to 
make more enhancements based on community needs. Through the incubation 
phase, we would also like to improve the ACTF APIs based on feedback  from 
the community.

To achieve this, we are now preparing more documentation and examples. 
These efforts may help developers and adopters to understand and use the 
ACTF components. We also plan to make our first interim release (0.1) this 
September. We hope the first beta SDK and documentation will help us to 
involve more developers/adopters. 

If you have any comments on our current steps or suggestions on what we 
can do, please let us know.

>* You have future releases indicated, but the project plan is quite out 
of date (it ends at 1Q2008).

Thank you for your notification! I had updated the project metadata, but 
forgot to synchronize the plan page. We'll keep updating our plan page.

Best regards,
Kentarou
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Kentarou Fukuda, Ph.D.
Tokyo Research Laboratory, IBM Japan
Tel: +81-46-215-4659
E-mail: kentarou@xxxxxxxxxx

actf-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 2008/08/07 02:42:57:

> Greetings ACTF developers,
> 
> I've been looking over your project and have noticed that, while you
> seem to be doing a great job of getting code into CVS, your community
> development efforts don't seem to be bearing fruit.
> 
> Specifically, 
> 
> * There is relatively little activity on the actf-dev mailing list.
> 
> * There is almost no activity on the newsgroup
> 
> * All but one of the bug reports in Bugzilla were reported by project
> committers (I didn't fully scrutinize the list, but this appears to be
> correct; at very least all but one of the bug reports comes from a
> ibm.com address).
> 
> * You have future releases indicated, but the project plan is quite out
> of date (it ends at 1Q2008).
> 
> I am encouraged by the nature of many of the bug reports; they do seem
> to indicate that you're trying to be transparent in introducing
> enhancements. Unfortunately, the few reports that I reviewed seemed a
> little short. That is, there is very little discussion around the
> features which leads me to believe that--by the time the bug has been
> created--you've already decided what to do (which, in turn, leads me to
> believe that most of your planning is done in private).
> 
> Transparency is an important part of being an Eclipse project and a
> valuable tool for attracting community. Having a thriving community is
> also an important part of being an Eclipse project.
> 
> As far as I can tell, there is basically no community developing around
> the project.
> 
> Have I missed something? Are you engaging your community using different
> mechanisms? Can you point to a couple of adopters of ACTF technology?
> 
> More importantly, is there something that I can do to help you develop a
> community around ACTF?
> 
> Wayne Beaton
> Eclipse Technology Project PMC
> 
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