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RE: [technology-pmc] RE: [alf-dev] Is ALF alive?

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Dear Technology PMC's
 
I request we postpone the conversation on ALF's future until late September.   There is a good rationale for this request for extension, which I explain here.
 
When the ALF project received the original notice of a request for a review by the Technology PMCs to determine whether ALF was alive,  I alerted the parties that have supported and contributed to ALF.  As noted in the my previous email, due to vacations and scheduling, it took a while for that initial conversation among the parties that have supported and funded ALF to occur.  That initial conversation has just happend.  While we don't yet have a recommendation to the PMC on whether we can increase the level of investment and broaden support for ALF, we do have movement, focus, and activity that will resut in a recommendation to the PMC.  We should note that the PMC's notice and the ensuing discussion has had the beneficial effect of focusing awareness on ALF and the need to either make it successful or terminate it. 
 
Since one of the issues with ALF has been the lack of activity by a diverse community, the healthy portion of the discussion is centered on working with partners to determine wheher we can revitalize the community and get ALF back on track.  We expect it to take a maximum of 4 to 6 weeks to contract potential partners, determine their level of interest and support, and determine whether Serena will make the additional investment to reinvigorate ALF.  To allow that assessment to take place, I request that we postpone the Technology PMC discussion until the end of September.
 
As noted previously, the Technology PMC's notice to ALF to review its status and whether it should be closed, has had a very positive effect in focusing attention and discussion on ALF (and what would be needed to reinvigorate it.)  Creating awareness that ALF should not continue at its present level of participation, by itself, has been significant.  At this point, I perceive two possible outcomes:
  1. That we identify partners who are willing to contribute to ALF and make the necessary investment.  This would reinvigorate ALF and put it back on track as a viable Eclipse project, or
  2. We determine that interest is not sufficient and we recommend to the PMC that it terminate the project.  For this scenario, we will also be investigating transferring the code assets (along with a committment of committers/contributors) to another Eclipse project that has expressed interest in adopting and enhancing the code assets ALF has created.
 
Both of these outcomes increases the value of ALF and its codebase to the Eclipse community.  But it will take that additional time to the end of Septermber to assess, coordinate, and determine our recommendation to the PMC to ensure that ALF s potential value is realized.  As ALF Project Lead, I believe delaying the discussion on closing ALF with the PMCs will result in increased value to the Eclipse community, no matter which outcome is determined to be appropriate.
 
Sincerely,
Brian
 

   Brian Carroll | Eclipse ALF Project Lead | Serena Fellow
   (O) (503) 617-2436 (C) (503) 318-2017


From: Brian Carroll
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:54 AM
To: Technology PMC
Subject: RE: [technology-pmc] RE: [alf-dev] Is ALF alive?

Dear technology PMC's,
 
I would like to request we schedule the conversation on the future of ALF at your convenience during the week of August 11th.  The original email called for a review by the end of July, but due to summer vacations and existing schedules, getting all the interested parties coordinated has taken somewhat longer than expected.  This two-week shift will allow us to better address the concerns that have been expressed.
 
Regards,
Brian
 

   Brian Carroll | Eclipse ALF Project Lead | Serena Fellow
   (O) (503) 617-2436 (C) (503) 318-2017

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From: technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:technology-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bjorn Freeman-Benson
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 10:13 AM
To: Technology PMC
Cc: ALF Developer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [technology-pmc] RE: [alf-dev] Is ALF alive?

Brian,
One thing we may be able to start with sooner is a discussion on interpreting the CVS statistics, as of all the measures of a project, we felt the best about the changes to the codebase, in the sense that substantial improvements and enhancements were made over the last 6 months.  Our sense is that real progress was made on the codebase, especially in the areas of security/SSO and the Event Manager, although we also did trivial across-the-board updates to update the copyright notice.  We suspect the observations in your first note may have reflected spot checks to portions of the code that received no effort except for the trivial IP protection updates. 
That is correct - I just did a spot check - sorry if I spot checked the wrong files :-(

In general, however, the PMC is more concerned about the lack of community: no developers talking on the dev mailing list, no users talking on the mailing list, the website not being update (for example, the most recent date on "ALF in the News" in August 2006), etc.

- Bjorn
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