Re: [tcf-dev] TCF and microcontrollers/uC (e. g. AVR or ARM Cortex)

[Rainer Poisel <rainer.poisel@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Eugene,

thanks for your response. That sounds interesting to me. What would be
the starting point for implementing such a bridge? Or what would be
the missing 10% of code?

I think that I would need to implement both the interfaces in the
"machine" as well as the "system" directory of the agent source? After
studying the "TCF agent porting guide" and the "TCF Agent Prototype
Implementation" documents it is not completely clear to me.

Aside from that, would it be possible to implement a TCF agent (i. e.
the bridge) in JAVA as well?

Regards,
  Rainer


On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Eugene Tarassov
<eugene.tarassov@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Rainer,
>
>> Would TCF be suitable for communicating with systems that do not have an operating system such as microcontrollers?
>
> Sure. One way to do is to use JTAG. TCF provides over 90% of code needed to build very powerful JTAG debugger. In such case, TCF agent runs on a host and communicates with the microcontroller over JTAG cable.
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 10:59 PM
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> Subject: [tcf-dev] TCF and microcontrollers/uC (e. g. AVR or ARM Cortex)
>
> Dear list,
>
> recently I have spent some time on learning what TCF is and how things
> actually work. To me it's an impressive and powerful framework. Now I
> was wondering:
>
> Would TCF be suitable for communicating with systems that do not have
> an operating system such as microcontrollers?
>
> My use cases would be to download code or to debug downloaded code. I
> stumbled upon the TCF porting guide
> (http://git.eclipse.org/c/tcf/org.eclipse.tcf.git/plain/docs/TCF%20Agent%20Porting%20Guide.html)
> and I have seen that Xilinx supports TCF for their devices.
>
> Regarding the ARM Cortex devices (e. g. STM32F4) - is there anything
> available yet for these 32-bit microcontrollers? I don't know whether
> the Xilinx approach works for all ARM Cortex microcontrollers. I have
> used the CDT together with GDB to debug applications but would it be
> possible with the TCF as well?
>
> And how about even more resource limited devices such as AVR microcontrollers?
>
> What would be the preferable approach to support such devices -
> implementing a TCF agent that runs on a host and works as a bridge to
> the microcontroller (e. g. TCF over TCP/IP to a custom serial
> protocol) or running a stripped down agent implementing the serial
> protocol directly on the microcontroller?
>
> Thanks in advance for giving me a few hints,
>   Rainer
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