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Re: [stp-pmc] Provisioning of the new SOA Top Level Project

Hi Alain,

Am 02.12.2009 um 11:45 schrieb Alain BOULZE (INRIA):

Hi Zsolt, all,

Le 30 nov. 2009 à 10:07, Zsolt Beothy-Elo a écrit :

seems that I have the honor to take care about the provisioning of our new SOA top level project.  Still I need some support from your side to answer all he question so please give me feed back until Wednesday , December 2..


* The short name

* The long name
SOA Platform Project

* Names of PMC Members and Leader
- Alain Boulze
- Stephane Drapeau
- Antoine Toulme
- Zsolt Beothy-Elo
As discussed during our meeting at ESE, each project leader should be in the PMC. So, Adrian Mos, as the leader of the new Mangrove SOA modeling framework is OK for participating to the PMC.

Is anybody willing to take over the lead?
+1 for Zsolt, since I'm OK with an unique lead, and as said by Stéphane with support of all the PMC members

* Architecture Council representatives
- Oliver Wolf
- anybody else?
Could you please summarize the roles and activities of such representatives ? INRIA could be interested in participating to this Council.

See for Architecure Council here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council/About_the_AC and for planning council here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Planning_Council, Requirements council does not seem to be that active.
Would be great if someone from INRIA would participate in one of the councils.



* Names and descriptions for top-level-specific mailing lists and forums
 Mailing Lists
- soa-pmc: Mailing list for SOA Platform Project  PMC
- soa-dev: General discussion of SOA Platform project-wide or architectural issues.
- soa-user: SOA Platform  communications and announcement (including coordination, and Group discussions)(web)

- eclipse.soa: For general discussions related to SOA technologies at Eclipse.

* Names Top-level "website" committers
- Zsolt Beothy-Elo
- Here we need at least one additional name

* Desired project URL

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

Von: Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Datum: 27. November 2009 21:05:27 MEZ
An: Oliver Wolf <oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx>
Kopie: Zsolt Beothy-Elo <zsolt.beothy-elo@xxxxxxxxx>, portal on behalf of emo <emo@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Ricco Deutscher <ricco.deutscher@xxxxxxxxx>, Donald Smith <donald.smith@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Mike Milinkovich <mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Oisin Hurley <oisin.hurley@xxxxxxxxx>, "Eclipse Webmaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: AW: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: [rt-pmc] Request to move the Swordfish pro ject]

(I've added a few more names to the CC list)

The board agreed, yes. The charter has been approved. But the project
has not yet been created.

It doesn't seem right to do a creation review. We do want the community
involved, but since the board has already approved the charter, project
creation has essentially been ordained. We can just move ahead with the
creation of the top-level project. I will need to know:

   * The short name
   * The long name
   * Names of PMC Members and Leader
   * Architecture Council representatives
   * Names and descriptions for top-level-specific mailing lists and forums
   * Names Top-level "website" committers
   * Desired project URL, something like "http://www.eclipse.org/soa"?

Website committers will, of course, be subject to the normal due process
by Sharon an the IP Team.

Once you have all this information together, I suggest that we open a
bug to track the process.

As part of the provisioning of the project, we'll create a "website"
subproject which will provide a "home" for website committers. We need
to have this project to manage the UNIX group of committers who will be
granted access to the website (this is a result of the UNIX group
standardization process we've been implementing). This subproject will
also serve as a focal point for electing new committers into that role.
Unless you specify otherwise, I'll assume that the PMC Lead you specify
will be the PL for the "website" subproject.

Once we have the project created, we can go about moving the various
projects into the top-level. This will require one or more move reviews.
We can lump as many of them together as you'd like. When the last
project moves out of STP, we'll do a Termination Review.

It'd be good if somebody could do a little blogging about what's
happening along the way.

Am I missing anything?


Oliver Wolf wrote:

are you sure? AFAIR the board has already agreed to create the new TLP.


--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: "Wayne Beaton" <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Betreff: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: [rt-pmc] Request to move the Swordfish project]
Datum: 27. November 2009
Uhrzeit: 19:5:39

The one thing that's missing (AFAICT) is the top level project itself.
AFAIK, we haven't actually created the SOA project yet. I believe that
I'm still waiting on a proposal.


Zsolt Beothy-Elo wrote:

Dear emo team,
the Swordfish project plans to move from the RT top level project to
the newly formed SOA top level project. Therfore we need a move
review. I submitted the IP log for approval and we are on the way to
update our project plan (should be availble end of this week). You can
find the approval of both PMC's here
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/rt-pmc/msg01018.html and here
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/stp-pmc/msg00468.html. I also
attached a first draft of the docu ware. Please let me know if I
missed a prerequisite for the review.



Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

*Von: *Wayne Beaton <wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:wayne@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
*Datum: *5. November 2009 15:50:25 MEZ
*An: *Zsolt Beothy-Elo <zsolt.beothy-elo@xxxxxxxxx
*Kopie: *"Webmaster(Matt Ward)" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx
*Betreff: **Re: [Fwd: Fwd: [rt-pmc] Request to move the Swordfish

Hi Zsolt. You will need to schedule a move review [1]. The review
documentation is relatively simple: you just need to describe (in as few
words as possible) why you're moving and what needs to happen: "Project
moves from place A to place B, all existing committers will move, etc. "

You will also need to submit your IP Log for approval and demonstrate
that you have a project plan in place prior to the move. If you can have
a review document to emo@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:emo@xxxxxxxxxxx> by Nov
10, we can do the review on
Nov. 18. I am happy to help you create the review documentation.

After the successful review, you will have to create a bug for webmaster
to track the required changes.





Fwd: [rt-pmc] Request to move the Swordfish project
Zsolt Beothy-Elo <zsolt.beothy-elo@xxxxxxxxx
Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:06:09 +0100
"webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
<webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>>

"webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>"
<webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Oliver Wolf <oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:oliver.wolf@xxxxxxxxx>>

Dear Webmasters,
the Swordfish project is planning to move from the Runtime project to
the new SOA TLP. Please move our sources in svn to the corresponding
new location and take all other action necessary when moving a
project. If there is anything the project has to do to support the
move just drop us a line?
The new  SOA TLP is basically the already existing STP project renamed
to SOA + Swordfish. I suppose the STP PMC will contact you in the next
days to initiate the renaming of the STP project.


Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

*Von: *Jeff McAffer <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Datum: *4. November 2009 17:11:16 MEZ
*An: *Runtime Project PMC mailing list <rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx
*Betreff: **Re: [rt-pmc] Request to move the Swordfish project*
*Antwort an: *Runtime Project PMC mailing list <rt-pmc@xxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks Zsolt, good timing!  We had a PMC meeting this morning and
discussed this topic.  We voted unanimously in favour of this move
think that it is a great progression of a RT technology into a more
specific TLP.  Congratulations and good luck.


On 2009-11-04, at 4:52 AM, Zsolt Beothy-Elo wrote:

Dear PMC members,
You may already know it, but just to make it official. The Swordfish
project is planning to join the the newly created SOA TLP.
In order to do so, we need approval to leave Runtime from the Runtime
PMC. So, I hereby request approval to move the Swordfish project from
to SOA .


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