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Bjorn,
The
only duplication I know of is in the area of B2J. This move of fuctionality from
TPTP to
STP
that was discussed at board meeting. I have cc'ed Mike Norman so that we have
all
parties involved on the thread.
Carl.
Carl,
The Board approval of STP wasn't a
blanket approval to duplicate work being done elsewhere. Eclipse projects are
expected to cooperate to create technology, not compete with each other.
- Bjorn
-------- Original Message --------
I understand this requirement but shouldn't STP define
the extension points and mechanics around these extension points and other
content owning projects actually contribute extensions to STP through their
projects? For example the new BPEL project should/would have extensions
to STP to integrate their tooling into STP.
If this is not the case then how do we see new content
types integrating into STP? I would hope that we wouldn't define a new
subproject each time there is a new implementation type.
As it stands I think these two subprojects are
misplaced because it seems that they have significant overlap with other
projects within Eclipse. Would you agree?
Regards,
Dan
Both B2J and BPMN where part of the proposal and board approval
process. They are
key a key sample in STP to
- Make sure we have the frameworks in place to
have STP extensible enough to
support other languages (C++, COBOL, BPEL... and hopefully one
day PHP :-)
- Make
sure that "technical participants" that integrate with the assembly
model
and then bind
to the Assembly model language binding like B2J will do with Java.
This
means that
these services created with eclipse with be able to deploy onto any
container supported by the
assembly model and SCA
Technically, we core was not on original list,
but we all agreed that we
want a "core" assembly for all subprojects in the
f2f.
In the IRC and last two weeks call we decided to seed the website
and then the dev list
can come back with edits to update the site. I will
also create pages for about, development
resource, community and
contributors and committers, which then can be reviewed by all and
updated.
I am hoping to bring one or two of these sections up this week.
I will
NOT create any content for the subprojects, that needs to be extensively
discussed on the
IRC and dev list.
Hope than
helps.
Carl.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Daume
[mailto:Stefan.Daume@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent:
Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:13 AM
To: STP Dev list
Cc: bjorn@xxxxxxxxxxx; James Moody
Subject:
Re: [stp-dev] Subproject issues
The STP project including the
subprojects was presented as is to the
Eclipse board. The STP project was
accepted on the basis of this
structure acknowledging that those were in
scope. I am sure that Carl
can add to this if necessary.
Stefan
Daniel Berg wrote:
>
> I was
looking at the defined sub projects and two of them stood out:
>
STP BPEL 2 Java (B2J) and STP BPMN (BPMN). The problem I have with
> these subprojects is that they start overlapping with implementation
> content contributions from other projects within Eclipse. For
> example, these seem to be obvious overlaps with the BPEL project
> within Eclipse.
>
> Why are we defining content
subprojects which clearly belongs in other
> projects within
Eclipse?
>
> STP is a platform for component implementation
assembly and
> deployment. It is not in the business of editing
or creating the
> specific component implementations. This is
best left to the
> implementation providers from other projects within
Eclipse.
>
> I suggest that these subprojects be removed from STP
and their
> contributions added to the proper Eclipse
subprojects.
>
> Regards,
>
Dan
>
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