Hi Renat, all.
Renat Zubairov a écrit :
Hello Vincent,
Thank you for the very detailed explanation. Now it’s much more clear
for me what do we assume under deployment during the STP Tutorial
proposal.
If I understood correctly we had two options to either deploy it on
Tuscany or OW2 PEtALS. First will support native SCA deployment where
second will require some additional transformations (i.e. SCA to JBI
bundles, etc).
However it might be not the only options we could have. I just recently
talked with Oliver Wolf who is Project Lead on Swordfish project and it
was like a “déjà vu” feeling, because he is right now planning to do
the SOA tutorial proposal which looks 90% the same as what we are
discussing right now. For me it was a very good news that we are
thinking about the same things and have the same vision with Eclipse
Runtime.
So, what I’ve got from him – there was an idea to show end2end
implementation use case and deploy it on the Swordfish runtime.
Swordfish runtime AFAIK is based on OSGI and Service Mix 4. According
to Oliver SCA support for Swordfish should be ready by the EC 2009.
Apart from it Swordfish is official subproject of Eclipse Runtime
Project therefore I assume we might expect a better tooling integration
from Swordfish into eclipse infrastructure (e.g. Equinox). For example
OSGI deployment/run use-cases are already supported in Eclipse.
What do you think about this option?
I guess we could present the three. :)
The two first ones I mentionned being external to Eclipse, the tutorial
would just show that "we support them and this is how we work with
them".
And since SwordFish is part of the Eclipse runtime project, we could
spend a little more time to show it and explain it.
It's all about timing in fact.
Maybe we should try to provide a first timing prevision for each
tutorial part (installation, time to explain things and let users
manipulate the tools + possible questions).
Regards,
Vincent.
Also in the end what we are talking about are
more or less our plans. Most of the things are not yet there and still
need to be done. I strongly believe that if we could show convergence
of STP and Runtime projects and our commitment to provide an Eclipse
based integrated SOA solution, then it would be easier to find
resources to implement what we have planed :)
BR
Renat
P.S. I remember that Stephane was thinking about greater evolving of
Spring community inside the STP. Swordfish is based on Spring DM due to
the fact that ServiceMix is based on it. Could it be that we could
benefit somehow from it?
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Vincent Zurczak
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