Re: [stp-dev] building stp

["Eclipse WebMaster (Denis Roy)" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Naci,

> *IMPORTANT*
> 5) Notify webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx
>           -)  to create an account stpBuild on build.eclipse.org

Done.  I will e-mail you the password directly.


>           -) to create a shared stpbuild group and a directory
> /shared/stp to store build files

Done.


>           -) to give access to ndai & ozan and other build masters to
> this area and local account @ build.eclipse.org

You have access, but I don't know who ozan is.


>           -) create an email alias stp.builder@xxxxxxxxxxx for build
> reporting

Done. You are the only one on the list.


>           -) create a mail list stp-releng for build reporting

This request needs to come from the STP PMC.


>           -) to create a download area @ download.eclipse.org for stp

This was done as part of the STP project provisioning.  Your (Naci) 
eclipse.org committer account doesn't currently allow you to write 
there, but you are an STP committer, so please get the STP PMC to ping 
us for this.

If you need anything else, please let me know.

Denis


>       That is all I could think of so far :-)




Naci Dai wrote:
> For your info - we have the STP builds running on our local build server 
> already.  We will start documenting this at:
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Main_Page#Project_Wiki_pages
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/STP
>
> I already created the pages
>
> Some initial action items:
>
> 1) Renaming the packages (com.ibm -> org.eclipse.stp )
>
> 2) Placing them under the cvs tree (stp/components/sca/plugins)
> 3) Creating top level assembly features for the sca/core subproject
>          cvs tree (stp/components/sca/features)
> 4) Form a team of build masters 2-3 people usually suffice.
>
> *IMPORTANT*
> 5) Notify webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx
>           -)  to create an account stpBuild on build.eclipse.org 
>           -) to create a shared stpbuild group and a directory 
> /shared/stp to store build files
>           -) to give access to ndai & ozan and other build masters to 
> this area and local account @ build.eclipse.org
>           -) create an email alias stp.builder@xxxxxxxxxxx for build 
> reporting
>           -) create a mail list stp-releng for build reporting
>           -) to create a download area @ download.eclipse.org for stp
>       That is all I could think of so far :-)
>
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> > [17:05] jrohn joined the chat room.
> > [17:14] oisin: FYI: due to the summertime increment in EU, we are 
> > keeping this channel open from 1100-1300 EST
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> > [18:03] oisin: hi guys
> > [18:03] DavidBosschaert: Hi Oisin
> > [18:03] oisin: we could be a little quiet today, because of the time 
> > shift
> > [18:05] oisin: hi Rob
> > [18:05] RobCernich: hey guys
> > [18:06] oisin: we have a couple of things to talk about
> > [18:06] oisin: 1. STP Build
> > [18:06] oisin: 2. IBM Code Contrib Analysis
> > [18:07] oisin: 3. STP Architecture {design | deploy | run}time
> > [18:07] oisin: 4. Web site
> > [18:08] oisin: obviously by a 'couple' I actually mean 'several'
> > [18:08] oisin: AOB?
> > [18:09] DavidBosschaert: Maybe pombreda wants to introduce him/herself?
> > [18:11] oisin: intros are welcome along the way, let's carry on anyway 
> > - we have a v. small group here, but let's get going
> > [18:11] oisin: 1. STP Build
> > [18:12] oisin: I assume that you have seen Naci's request to Ozan to 
> > dup the WTP build system and get it ready to transition to STP
> > [18:12] DavidBosschaert: I havent. Was that sent to stp-dev?
> > [18:13] oisin: apologies - I just double-checked it was not sent to 
> > stp-dev, just as an fyi to myself
> > [18:13] oisin: he will be directing it to compile/test/etc the IBM code
> > [18:13] oisin: this will not be delivered to build.eclipse.org yet, as 
> > the IBM code is still in the 'zilla
> > [18:14] oisin: but it will imply a functioning build
> > [18:14] oisin: we **really** need buildmasters for this project
> > [18:14] DavidBosschaert: Cool, any idea when Ozan will be working on 
> > this>?
> > [18:14] oisin: Naci and his colleagues will *not* be maintaining this 
> > for ever, they have other jobs
> > [18:15] DavidBosschaert: On the buildmasters, maybe we could organize 
> > something like a rota...
> > [18:15] oisin: we need initial buildmasters, with lots of coverage.
> > [18:15] DavidBosschaert: IONA doing it a month, Sybase a month, IBM a 
> > month and so on?
> > [18:15] oisin: not a good use of resources David
> > [18:16] oisin: also, company orientation is not really appropriate
> > [18:16] DavidBosschaert: How does DTP do it then?
> > [18:16] oisin: we will be running continuous builds, implying that we 
> > need time zone coverage to fix up fails
> > [18:16] oisin: in a timely fashion
> > [18:17] oisin: please note that just because you decide to be a 
> > buildmaster at the outset it doesn't mean that you have to be one forever
> > [18:17] oisin: it is a transferable skill, unlike double-jointedness
> > [18:18] RobCernich: dtp does not, as yet, have automated builds
> > [18:18] oisin: we have lots and lots of people listed as committers -- 
> > we need at least 4 persons for this initial foray
> > [18:19] oisin: to give Naci support and to form a mind-meld between 
> > themselves
> > [18:19] oisin: ok - that's my piece - I will be putting pressure on 
> > all around
> > [18:19] oisin: can I move on to 2?
> > [18:20] DavidBosschaert: I noticed that Devang has added build 
> > instructions to the bugzilla entry at 
> > https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=132747
> > [18:20] DavidBosschaert: (This applies to 2)
> > [18:20] oisin: Ok, we are now on 2
> > [18:20] oisin: Yes I have built it and run the tests -- there is one 
> > failing unit
> > [18:21] RobCernich: i haven't had a chance to review the code yet
> > [18:21] oisin: what I haven't done is put together a structural 
> > analysis (for tangles, etc) on the code
> > [18:21] RobCernich: it's on my list of things to do
> > [18:21] oisin: I think we are all in the same boat Rob, a lot to do 
> > after returning from eclipsecon
> > [18:22] oisin: but let's keep it a high priority all the same
> > [18:22] DavidBosschaert: Are we happy with the amount of dependencies 
> > this code has?
> > [18:22] oisin: right now it is very early in the play so some 
> > dependencies are ok
> > [18:23] oisin: the WTP dependency is on the WST part of the project 
> > and I am told by Dan it's actually just a small area of the code that 
> > is required
> > [18:23] oisin: this is something that we can put in as a request to 
> > WTP to turn into a 'feature' as part of their build to make the 
> > consumable smaller
> > [18:23] oisin: the JEM dependency I was not aware of until I tried to 
> > compile it initially
> > [18:24] oisin: this is part of the VE stuff and is a separately 
> > packaged thing
> > [18:24] oisin: I am unsure of the strength of the requirement for JEM
> > [18:25] oisin: Let's all try to get the code reviewed by the end of 
> > next week, eh?/
> > [18:25] oisin: Dan + Michael are committed to addressing all questions 
> > etc and hope to post some documentation soon
> > [18:25] DavidBosschaert: Sounds like a plan.
> > [18:25] oisin: ok let's go to 3
> > [18:26] oisin: our architecture is, well, more of a markitecture (c.f. 
> > proposal/charter pages)
> > [18:26] RobCernich: works for me
> > [18:26] oisin: I've nearly got a first draft architecture diagram 
> > ready to go
> > [18:27] oisin: This focusses directly on the part which is considered 
> > by ESB vendors to be the most interesting -- design/deploy
> > [18:27] oisin: There is nothing in there right now wrt runtime tooling
> > [18:27] oisin: by that I mean tools to interact with an operation SOA 
> > system
> > [18:27] oisin: this could very well be a place where we can feed stuff 
> > into TPTP
> > [18:29] oisin: i hope the arch can act as a focus for consumption of 
> > elements of WTP
> > [18:30] oisin: well I guess it's not interesting until you see the 
> > architecture, so I'll move on to 4 if that's ok
> > [18:30] oisin: Our website is a little....lightweight
> > [18:30] oisin: it also has the old look and feel
> > [18:30] oisin: we need to address these two issues
> > [18:31] oisin: I would certainly like someone to take point on 
> > maintaining action items pertaining to the web site content
> > [18:32] DavidBosschaert: Pretty much all the links are broken
> > [18:32] oisin: the PMC will probably do this in the short term, but 
> > project leads will be asked to maintain content relevant to their 
> > subproject/incubator
> > [18:35] oisin: before subproject leads are fully in place, all 
> > committers may be asked to do some work in this area
> > [18:35] oisin: ok. that's up to 4
> > [18:35] oisin: anything else on anyone's mind?
> > [18:37] RobCernich: too much on mine
> > [18:41] pombreda: DavidBosschaert: sorry, I was not in front of my 
> > computer: I am an Eclipse open source fan, and I maintain an open 
> > source distro called EasyEclipse plus a few plugins like EasyStruts...
> > [18:41] pombreda: I amde a few talks at EcliseCon too, like 
> > http://eclipsecon.org/2006/Sub.do?id=68
> > [18:42] pombreda: DavidBosschaert: you can expect me to be there as an 
> > observer
> > [18:43] oisin: hi Philippe!
> > [18:44] oisin: Rob -- what would you like to talk about
> > [18:44] pombreda: oisin: hi!
> > [18:44] DavidBosschaert: Thanks Philippe!
> > [18:45] RobCernich: nothing to talk about
> > [18:45] RobCernich: unless you can slow the rotation of the earth so 
> > there are more hours in the day
> > [18:46] oisin: ho ho! did you know that I am trying to invent a time 
> > machine too
> > [18:46] RobCernich:
> > [18:46] oisin: but have had no success, so the only option is to 
> > divest work
> > [18:47] oisin: ok, we can leave it on that optimistic note -- I'll 
> > post the irc content to the mailing list later as per usual
> > [18:47] oisin: thanks all and have a good evening/afternoon
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