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Hi all,
There are two kinds of Pajek formats, that can be imported into STEM. The old one, that was implemented by Armin and is
documented in PajekStem_Format.doc.
And then there is the new one, that I created and documented in the wiki. The new one does not support setting area
size, because we did not need it for the networks we created.
I think it would not be much work to make the new format support s_size, but currently I'm preparing a workshop for one
of our software tools and afterwards I'm on holidays.
So I would also suggest to add the area programmatically.
Best regards,
Chris
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>>> "James Kaufman" <jhkauf@xxxxxxxxxx> 23.05.2017 18:32 >>>
Hi Emily,
I gather from the question that you are doing a computation that depends
on population density, or needs area in a related way.
Chris may have another answer but you should be able to use the s_size
(additional parameter) in your pajek input file. The following doc
(created by Chris) is part of the pajek downloadable example.
If you have 1000 different nodes with different area values you might look
into creating your pajek file programmatically using R, python, or some
other language you like. It's a simple delimited file.
I agree you don't want to specify them individually :-)
Chris,
Could we add a paragraph on area specification to the wiki section on
Pajek ?
Best Regards,
Jamie
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 10:26:41 +0100
From: Emily Nixon <emily.nixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [stem-dev] Area labels and populated area in pajek graphs
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Hi all,
I have successfully used the pajek file importer on a number of occasions,
but until now didn't need to specify the "Populated area" (part of the
Population label) on my graph. I can't work out how to specify this or how
to add area labels as well as population labels to my graph without having
to do it manually (and I have ~1000 nodes!).
There doesn't seem to be an option to specify this on the ODS spreadsheet
available https://wiki.eclipse.org/Importing_a_Pajek_Graph. I think in the
old format it used to be s_size, but adding this to a pajek graph in the
new format doesn't work.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks very much,
Emily
--
*Emily Nixon*
*PhD Student*
Demonstrator
School of Biological Sciences
University of Bristol
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24 Tyndall Avenue
Bristol
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 11:42:21 +0200
From: Ta G <taras1802@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [stem-dev] Area labels and populated area in pajek graphs
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Hi Emily,
it is possible to define labels in the XML file of your graph.
You find this under the file-path:
C:\stem\workspace\YOUR_PROJECT\graphs
The file Looks like this:
test.graph
So I think this can help you.
Please open the files with an texteditor like Notepad ++.
I used this way to hack a modfier and add 6000 Parameter-values into the
modifier file.
I used KNIME for that and saved the file into the directory of my
Project.
So maybe you can use a similiar way.
Best regards,
Taras
Von: Emily Nixon
Gesendet: Montag, 22. Mai 2017 11:26
An: STEM developer mailing list
Betreff: [stem-dev] Area labels and populated area in pajek graphs
Hi all,
I have successfully used the pajek file importer on a number of occasions,
but until now didn't need to specify the "Populated area" (part of the
Population label) on my graph. I can't work out how to specify this or how
to add area labels as well as population labels to my graph without having
to do it manually (and I have ~1000 nodes!).
There doesn't seem to be an option to specify this on the ODS spreadsheet
available https://wiki.eclipse.org/Importing_a_Pajek_Graph. I think in the
old format it used to be s_size, but adding this to a pajek graph in the
new format doesn't work. ?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks very much,
Emily?
--
Emily Nixon
PhD Student
Demonstrator?
School of Biological Sciences
University of Bristol
Bristol Life Sciences Building
24 Tyndall Avenue
Bristol
BS8 1TQ
Tel +44 (0)117 394 1389
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 10:59:01 +0100
From: Emily Nixon <emily.nixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Ta G <taras1802@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [stem-dev] Area labels and populated area in pajek graphs
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Hi Taras,
Thanks, I've managed to open this and I can see that nothing is written
next to:
</label>
</value>
</edges>
for each node (or maybe edge, I'm not sure which, see attached photo)
but I've never written in XML before so I'm not sure how to define an area
label using XML language, or how to do this quickly for each of the 1000
nodes! Is there a document or website that could help? Or some basic rules
you know I need to follow?
Best wishes,
Emily
On 22 May 2017 at 10:42, Ta G <taras1802@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Emily,
>
> it is possible to define labels in the XML file of your graph.
>
>
>
> You find this under the file-path:
>
>
>
> C:\stem\workspace\YOUR_PROJECT\graphs
>
>
>
> The file Looks like this:
>
>
>
> test.graph
>
>
>
> So I think this can help you.
>
> Please open the files with an texteditor like Notepad ++.
>
> I used this way to hack a modfier and add 6000 Parameter-values into
the
> modifier file.
>
> I used KNIME for that and saved the file into the directory of my
Project.
>
>
>
> So maybe you can use a similiar way.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Taras
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von: *Emily Nixon <emily.nixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Gesendet: *Montag, 22. Mai 2017 11:26
> *An: *STEM developer mailing list <stem-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Betreff: *[stem-dev] Area labels and populated area in pajek graphs
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I have successfully used the pajek file importer on a number of
occasions,
> but until now didn't need to specify the "Populated area" (part of the
> Population label) on my graph. I can't work out how to specify this or
how
> to add area labels as well as population labels to my graph without
having
> to do it manually (and I have ~1000 nodes!).
>
>
>
> There doesn't seem to be an option to specify this on the ODS
spreadsheet
> available https://wiki.eclipse.org/Importing_a_Pajek_Graph. I think in
> the old format it used to be s_size, but adding this to a pajek graph in
> the new format doesn't work.
>
>
>
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks very much,
>
>
>
> Emily
>
> --
>
> *Emily Nixon*
>
> *PhD Student*
>
> Demonstrator
>
>
>
> School of Biological Sciences
>
> University of Bristol
> Bristol Life Sciences Building
> 24 Tyndall Avenue
> Bristol
> BS8 1TQ
>
> Tel +44 (0)117 394 1389 <+44%20117%20394%201389>
>
>
>
--
*Emily Nixon*
*PhD Student*
Demonstrator
School of Biological Sciences
University of Bristol
Bristol Life Sciences Building
24 Tyndall Avenue
Bristol
BS8 1TQ
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