sequoyah-dev

[sequoyah-dev] Sequoyah termination stalled

wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) — Fri, 03 May 2013 19:20:48 GMT

Greetings Tools PMC.

The Sequoyah project's termination process has stalled. I'd like to kick it back into gear.

The termination review documentation is here:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Sequoyah/Termination_Review

The bug that I'm using to track the termination is here:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=388465

Your input is welcome.

Some things to note:

* MTJ needs to move from being a Sequoyah subproject to a Tools subproject.
* MTJ's website is still in CVS which means that it hasn't been touched in at least four months.
* MTJ feels like it's on life support. Some TLC might be in order.

Can the PMC please coordinate with the MTJ project to make sure that the impact of the move from tools.sequoyah.mtj to tools.mtj is fully understood?

I'd like to schedule this review to start next Thursday.

Thanks,

Wayne

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[sequoyah-dev] Project meta data is out of date for tools.sequoyah

emo@xxxxxxx (portal on behalf of emo) — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 04:00:22 GMT

Eric,
Projects are required to keep meta data up to date using the MyFoundation
Portal (http://portal.eclipse.org/).  The following problems were found
with this project's meta-data:

* The date for release "2.1.0" is in the past, but the release is not
marked as completed. If it is completed, it should be marked as completed;
if it has been postponed, it should be given a new target date.
* There is no next/future release of this project. All Eclipse projects
must have a "next release" planned and scheduled.

[sequoyah-dev] VncView

gupta.vish@xxxxxxx (vishal gupta) — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:24:49 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to use the vncview of Sequoyah.

Using the vncviewer "protocol version 3.8" i am able to connect to other system running vncserver.

But the problem is that the special characters are not passed to the other system.

Example :

if i try to type a capital 'A' using "Shift" + 'a' , it is not passed to the other system. Or we can say that it's not recognized.

Could you please guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

Re: [sequoyah-dev] Help

wayne@xxxxxxx (Wayne Beaton) — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:03:54 GMT

There has been discussion regarding termination of Sequoyah, but we never did actually make it happen. I believe that the wrinkle is that MTJ needs to move before we terminate; AFAIK, I'm waiting on the Sequoyah and MTJ leadership to move on that before we can proceed.

Wayne

On 02/20/2013 02:34 PM, Daniel Pastore wrote:

Hi Vishal,

That's correct. There has been no more development for Sequoyah for a while.

Thanks,

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Daniel,

Thanks for the link, i will check it out.

Plus when you say that "Sequoyah has be archived", does it mean that there will be no more development activity for Sequoyah ?

Thanks,

Vishal

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Daniel Pastore <kpqb38@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Vishal,

Sequoyah has already been archived, but you may be able to fetch the code from git.
http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.sequoyah

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am not able to access the repository "http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/tools/org.eclipse.sequoyah"

to check source code for VNC

Could someone guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

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Re: [sequoyah-dev] Help

kpqb38@xxxxxxx (Daniel Pastore) — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:35:41 GMT

Hi Vishal,

That's correct. There has been no more development for Sequoyah for a while.

Thanks,

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Daniel,

Thanks for the link, i will check it out.
Plus when you say that "Sequoyah has be archived", does it mean that there will be no more development activity for Sequoyah ?

Thanks,
Vishal

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Daniel Pastore <kpqb38@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Vishal,

Sequoyah has already been archived, but you may be able to fetch the code from git.
http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.sequoyah

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am not able to access the repository Â Â"http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/tools/org.eclipse.sequoyah"Â

to check source code for VNC
Could someone guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

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Re: [sequoyah-dev] Help

gupta.vish@xxxxxxx (vishal gupta) — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:26:42 GMT

Hello Daniel,

Thanks for the link, i will check it out.

Plus when you say that "Sequoyah has be archived", does it mean that there will be no more development activity for Sequoyah ?

Thanks,

Vishal

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Daniel Pastore <kpqb38@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Vishal,

Sequoyah has already been archived, but you may be able to fetch the code from git.
http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.sequoyah

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am not able to access the repository "http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/tools/org.eclipse.sequoyah"

to check source code for VNC
Could someone guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

_______________________________________________
sequoyah-dev mailing list
sequoyah-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sequoyah-dev

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Thanks,

Daniel Pastore

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Re: [sequoyah-dev] Help

kpqb38@xxxxxxx (Daniel Pastore) — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 19:09:54 GMT

Hi Vishal,

Sequoyah has already been archived, but you may be able to fetch the code from git.
http://projects.eclipse.org/projects/tools.sequoyah

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM, vishal gupta <gupta.vish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am not able to access the repository Â Â"http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/tools/org.eclipse.sequoyah"Â

to check source code for VNC
Could someone guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

_______________________________________________
sequoyah-dev mailing list
sequoyah-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sequoyah-dev

--
Thanks,

Daniel Pastore

[sequoyah-dev] Help

gupta.vish@xxxxxxx (vishal gupta) — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:47:46 GMT

Hi,

I am not able to access the repository "http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/tools/org.eclipse.sequoyah"

to check source code for VNC

Could someone guide me with this.

Thanks,

Vishal

[sequoyah-dev] Project meta data is out of date for tools.sequoyah

emo@xxxxxxx (portal on behalf of emo) — Sat, 05 Jan 2013 05:00:14 GMT

Eric,
Projects are required to keep meta data up to date using the MyFoundation
Portal (http://portal.eclipse.org/).  The following problems were found
with this project's meta-data:

* The date for release "2.1.0" is in the past, but the release is not
marked as completed. If it is completed, it should be marked as completed;
if it has been postponed, it should be given a new target date.
* There is no next/future release of this project. All Eclipse projects
must have a "next release" planned and scheduled.

Re: [sequoyah-dev] Ramp down of tools.sequoyah and mobile package activities

dcp874@xxxxxxx (ERIC CLONINGER) — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 19:53:42 GMT

This is a demo of it in MOTODEV Studio that is on youTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Asv-IoH9M0

There was one bit that called out to Google Translate API in our
commercial product that we were never able to contribute back, but it
shouldn't be hard to reproduce. In fact, all that code is now checked
into the Android OS Project and might be reproduced or rebuilt by an
interested party. There was some interest in a third party about using
the Bing translate API at one time, but we couldn't build that
ourselves.

-E

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Wayne Beaton  wrote:
> Do you have a handy link that describes the multi-language string editor?
> The Babel project isn't going to appreciate my handwaving.
>
> However this works out, the worst case scenario is that we might have to
> rescue the bits from the archive.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> On 09/12/2012 03:35 PM, ERIC CLONINGER wrote:
>
> One other piece that you may recall me mentioning at EclipseCon is the
> multi-language string editor. This is not just for Android and our
> GSoC student last year made it work for Eclipse Java projects. I think
> Babel should look into taking this. Maybe even JDT. The guys who
> created it will still be around in the Eclipse ecosystem, so if
> someone decides they want it, we'll be happy to help them understand
> the model.
>
> -E
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Wayne Beaton  wrote:
>
> The website will just disappear into the archive. The wiki pages will live
> forever.
>
> The stuff in the simultaneous release p2 repositories will also live on
> forever.
>
> Wayne
>
>
>
> On 09/12/2012 03:25 PM, ERIC CLONINGER wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, I dropped the ball on the ecf-dev response. I didn't see
> your first ping there. I responded and hopefully Scott Lewis will say
> whether he has any interest still in the VNC code.
>
> As far as the Sequoyah web presence goes, is there anything we need to
> do to web or wiki or will it just disappear? We weren't on the train
> for Juno, so the only other thing is the update sites for Helios and
> Indigo which should not change.
>
> -E
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Wayne Beaton  wrote:
>
> What is the status of this?
>
> The work-in-progress review document is on the wiki [1].
>
> Has ECF stepped forward to take over any components?
>
> Moving MTJ directly under tools shouldn't have any impact on the project's
> day-to-day operation. Repositories, website, and downloads can stay exactly
> as they are. AFAICT, the only thing that will change is the project's id and
> corresponding "info" page [2]. The change in leadership can happen at any
> time (before, after, or during the move).
>
> To make this happen, we need to just add a sentence or two describing the
> move. If you are in agreement, I can go ahead and make the change. Tell me
> what you want to do.
>
> Are there any other concerns that I'm missing?
>
> Are we close to setting a date for this?
>
> Is it too aggressive to strive for running the review Sept 20-26? Do we need
> more time?
>
> Wayne
>
> [1] http://wiki.eclipse.org/Sequoyah/Termination_Review
> [2] http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project.php?id=tools.sequoyah.mtj
>
>
> On 08/22/2012 01:01 AM, Gorkem Ercan wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I agree that MTJ should also be promoted to be tools sub-project. I think
> its timing will be ideal as we are also in a transition period on MTJ as
> well. I am stepping down as the project lead for the project. Pranav
> Gothadiya from Nokia is going to take over my role in MTJ. This is a change
> in the right direction because Pranav is part of the development team in
> Nokia that is creating an IDE based on MTJ. I think as an adopter of MTJ he
> and the team that he works with will be able to put more time to the
> project than I am able to at this time.
>
> We are just starting the transition on MTJ and I will send a separate note
> on its timing and practicalities later.
> --
> Gorkem
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 6:53 PM, ERIC CLONINGER  wrote:
>
> +cross-project-issues-dev
>
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:03 AM, ERIC CLONINGER 
> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> It's with regret that I announce that I and the Sequoyah development
> team will no longer be able to maintain the project. I want to start
> an orderly shutdown of the project, but the process will be fairly
> quick. We haven't been very active the last few months, although as
> late as June we had moved to git and had planned to do some cleanup on
> the components. That activity will not occur now.
>
> I know there are components of Sequoyah that are of interest to
> others, so I am sending this email to several mailing lists. Scott
> Lewis has expressed interest in the past in the VNC component for ECF.
> If that interest is still relevant, the transfer can begin with our
> blessing.
>
> The status of Mobile Tools for Java is uncertain to me. It is a
> sub-project of Sequoyah, but the mailing list activity has been
> minimal the last 18 months and emails to Gorkem have gone unanswered.
> The MTJ code is in git and the most recent submission was in April, so
> I believe the project is still viable, albeit with minimal adopters.
> My suggestion is to promote MTJ to a sub-project of tools or let the
> tools PMC make the call.
>
> As for activities related to Packages, I plan to maintain the Eclipse
> for Mobile Developers as a personal project through Juno SR2. It would
> be good to have a candidate for the Kepler milestones as I will only
> have enough time to test the Windows and Linux Juno packages. I do not
> have a Mac nor will one be available for me through Eldorado after
> SR1. I think it's been moderately popular with users, so having a
> maintainer should be a priority for the Kepler simultaneous release.
>
> If there are any questions or issues, feel free to raise them. Daniel
> and I should be available through the end of September to work through
> this process.
>
> Thank you for your understanding and support through this process.
>
> --
> Eric Cloninger (ericc@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Product Line Manager, MOTODEV Tools
> Eclipse Sequoyah Project Lead
>
>
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>
>
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