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Re: [rt-pmc] Runtime platforms on the eclipse download page

On 6/23/2016 11:28 AM, Jesse McConnell wrote:

Depends on the purpose in the end....discovery of eclipse projects, or discovery of osgi technologies.


I don't think I'm fully understanding what you are saying but with that caveat I would add:     these are all Eclipse runtime projects we are talking about, and many of those project represent osgi technologies (for obvious historical, technical, and other reasons). 

Whether they are osgi technologies or not, many projects need discovery and promotion...and don't get enough of it (IMO).  

FWIW, I would argue against selection criteria that was based upon whether a project was osgi tech or not.   The project I represent is an osgi tech project (ECF), but I would not be comfortable with that as selection criteria.

Scott


On Jun 23, 2016 11:30, "Scott Lewis" <slewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 6/23/2016 9:12 AM, Jesse McConnell wrote:
The definition of 'container' is so massively overridden these days the term hardly has meaning.

Yeah, exactly...which is why it doesn't make good selection criteria.


Taking a step back I hardly think that this download page (or any similar download page anywhere at eclipse) is going to make but a very small handful of people find a download they are not already looking for.

I disagree with this.   I think it could be true for the download use cases Jetty/Jesse is mostly interested in (people looking for Jetty specifically...probably most likely to go to Maven central Jetty separate from Eclipse).   But for other projects...e.g. ones that are relatively new extensions to OSGi frameworks, RCP, and/or Eclipse tooling such as ECF remote services and others...I don't think your analysis holds.  In those cases their biggest problem is that no one knows about the work because it gets no exposure/promotion, and being viewed by more people can/does matter.

It does suggest to me that if a project like Jetty doesn't really get much benefit from being on the main download page (because everyone is looking elsewhere already) then perhaps it shouldn't be in the set of 5 selected projects that are on the download page.

Scott


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