Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc

["Campo, Christian" <Christian.Campo@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think Glyn is already a very active person in rt-pmc. He initiated and contributes to many of the current topics. Glyn is in most telcos. It would only be a very small step for him to be co-lead. Maybe a little more than just getting access to the moderator code of the telcos but not much more. :-) Ok and then if Tom is not in the telco you have to do the minutes. (happened to me ONCE in over a year)

Making you, Glyn co-lead is in my view more an acknowledgement of the work you are already doing. I know you take these kind of committments very seriously but this not a committment until the end of time. Having two people leading a group has the advantage that "life" continues even if only one lead is present in a call or in a meeting.

And I can buy you a beer on ECE2013 if that makes a difference :-)

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Von: rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rt-pmc-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Jesse McConnell
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 13:26
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Betreff: Re: [rt-pmc] co-lead position rt-pmc

I agree Glyn would be excellent

I know he has just turned down the nomination however I would also +1 him and perhaps you (Christian) can detail out more of the role of what co-lead does such that we could lull him into the role.

cheers,
jesse

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Glyn Normington <gnormington@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Christian
>
> I think one of your strengths in being a co-lead is that you do
> understand the IDE side of things as well as being deeply involved in
> RT. You also know Riena, which probably puts you in a minority in the
> RT PMC! However, I know what it feels like when the topics constantly
> under discussion are not personally very relevant, so I understand you wanting to stand down.
>
> I'm pleased that some people, including yourself, think I would make a
> good co-lead. I admit to being interested in the current topics of
> discussion from a Virgo perspective. However, that doesn't mean I
> therefore have sufficient time to take on a co-lead role. I'm spread
> pretty thin at the moment trying to keep Gemini Blueprint going and
> working the rest of the time on Virgo, so I'm afraid I'll need to
> pass. I will however provide all the back-up I can to Tom, especially
> on the current topics. I just don't have the time to gen up on the
> various RT projects in order to take on tasks like speaking
> authoritatively on behalf of Eclipse RT at conferences. Maybe we all feel that way?
>
> Regards,
> Glyn
>
> On 21 Nov 2012, at 08:27, Campo, Christian wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have been think about this for a while. The rt-pmc members voted for
> me as a co-lead for the RT-PMC last year. I really appreciated the
> trust that you guys put in me.
>
> However I currently have the feeling that a lot of rt-pmc topics sort
> of pass by me. There are pain points for RT projects like Maven,
> Release Train or LTS that I currently dont feel so much myself. I feel
> that am unable to be a lot of help and I am proposing that someone
> other who is more affected and concerned about the current pain points takes over from here.
> I think Tom is doing a wonderful job leading us but I feel very unable
> and unefficient in backing him up. So that makes me think that someone
> like Glyn would serve us much better as co-lead (if he likes to do
> that)
>
> Pain Points that I have are more along the lines of how can we move
> Riena to e4. We just finished that and Riena will rejoin the Kepler
> composite repo for M4.
>
> Its not that I am pulling back ressources from Eclipse at all. I still
> like to be in the rt-pmc and I am also program chair for ECE 2013
> which will be again a lot of work.
>
> My observation is just that I am currently not a good co-lead for the
> rt-pmc.
>
> Who likes to do it instead ?
>
> Christian Campo
>
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