Virgo participated in the Juno release train primarily in order to qualify for LTS and yet there seem to be few other advantages, but significant costs, in Virgo's participation. So I have been probing whether participation in the release train should be a pre-req to LTS. I have discussed this with the RT PMC and no-one felt that the release train was the correct pre-req.
Andrew Ross and I agree (below) that the release train isn't the true requirement, but that's the way the LTS-readiness Release Management requirement ([1]) is currently written. The only alternative currently is to obtain approval by a vote of the LTS Steering Committee.
I would therefore like to request the LTS Steering Commit to provide an alternative LTS-readiness Release Management criterion in terms that can be satisfied without participating in the release train. This would establish the correct principle, IMO, rather than making this a per-project decision of the LTS Steering Committee.
Glyn Normington
Eclipse Virgo Project Lead
RT PMC Member
Begin forwarded message:
Subject: Re: Should LTS pre-req the release train?
Date: 12 September 2012 05:04:24 GMT+01:00
Hi Glyn, Ian
I had the same conversation in the context of Jetty. No surprise the same answer applies.
Of the LTS readiness requirements, I do believe the simultaneous release requirements is rather soft. Pretty much agreeing with you - there are requirements to be on the train that we'll likely clone into the LTS-readiness definition but the simultaneous release in and of itself isn't a true requirement. That said, it is the easiest way to be picked up for LTS. Otherwise the Steering Committee needs to explicitly make a decision to bring it in.
Andrew
On 09/11/2012 10:08 AM, Glyn Normington wrote:
Hi Andrew
There has been discussion in the RT PMC and the Gemini project recently about the participation of runtime projects in the Eclipse release train. Jetty, for instance, will no longer be on the train as of the Kepler release because there seem to be few advantages and significant costs of joining the train.
The main reason Virgo joined the release train was because there is interest in Virgo participating in the LTS programme which pre-req's the release train. I'm not convinced that the release train really should be a pre-req. to LTS. It is more likely that some of the release train requirements, such as availability of releases from a standard repository, are really what LTS requires.
What's your thinking on this?
I have coped Ian who is the RT PMC's representative on the Planning Council as we may want to raise the same question there when you've expressed your thoughts on the matter.
