Re: [rt-pmc] Google Visualization API Dependency

[Jeff McAffer <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think that dependency types need to be assessed in a larger context.  That is, yes, that particular function, using Google visualization, "pre-reqs" (has a hard requirement on) the Google Vis API but in the larger context, RAP works just fine without this.  This is analogous to WTP has a works-with dependency on the various servers for its adapters.  WTP works fine without any particular adapter but of course, if you want to use the WAS adapter, WAS is required.

So there is a judgement that look at whether or not the over all function involved (visualization in this case) is essential and whether or not there are available, less restricted, alternatives (e.g., in WTP, an adapter for the open source Tomcat or Jetty servers).

In this case the addition of Google Visualization integration to RAP feels like the addition of Google Maps integration. It is an optional extra.

BTW, there are some issues with the Google terms of use we had in the case of the Google Maps/Earth JavaScript we wanted to ship in Toast.  The terms of use are pretty broad and the IP team had some challenges. Not sure if the Visualization API will have similar issues.  See the CQs for more discussion.

Jeff

On 2010-01-29, at 3:00 PM, Austin Riddle wrote:

> That is correct, the contribution in question provides Java-based access to a subset of the Google Visualization API.  The contribution requires the use of the Google Visualization API.  The end result is the ability to create said visualizations in RAP.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Thomas Watson wrote:
>> 
>> I was about to respond with a similar response as Jesse. This appears more of a works with relationship but perhaps it is thought of more as a pre-req because the contributed code cannot function properly without the Google API available remotely?
>> 
>> Tom
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>> Inactive hide details for Jesse McConnell ---01/29/2010 02:00:20 PM---I think we talked about something like this a month or soJesse McConnell ---01/29/2010 02:00:20 PM---I think we talked about something like this a month or so back on one
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>> From: 	
>> Jesse McConnell <jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> Date: 	
>> 01/29/2010 02:00 PM
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>> Subject: 	
>> Re: [rt-pmc] Google Visualization API Dependency
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>> 
>> I think we talked about something like this a month or so back on one
>> of the rt-pmc calls..
>> 
>> looking through the url and the cq, it seems like this is more of a
>> work's with as opposed to an actual dependency that would be either
>> pulled in or checked into eclipse svn or orbit, right?
>> 
>> If I remember right from that discussion this is akin to just
>> developing against something like a web service that you are writing
>> (or donating in this case I think) all of the glue that would exist on
>> the eclipse side...
>> 
>> so it ought to fall under the same category as a project making a
>> 'works with' dependency/declaration on oracle jdbc drivers, regardless
>> of the ??fact?? that there is no other provider of that api (which is
>> where I think the primary point of confusion would lay.
>> 
>> in my book that is fine, not sure if others have different feedback on it :)
>> 
>> cheers,
>> jesse
>> 
>> --
>> jesse mcconnell
>> jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx
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>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 13:48, Austin Riddle <austin.riddle@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hello RAP PMC,
>> >
>> > I would like to ask for approval to have a dependency on the Google
>> > Visualization toolkit:
>> >
>> > http://code.google.com/apis/visualization/
>> >
>> > based on the discussion from this CQ:
>> >
>> > https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3717
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > -- Austin Riddle Software Engineer Computing and Information Technology
>> > Division Texas Center for Applied Technology Texas Engineering Experiment
>> > Station
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