Re: [rt-pmc] Re: Virgo

[Jesse McConnell <jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx>]

Sure, I have no issues keeping discussion on the public lists.  I am
just curious as to the rational behind having the default web
container for another project coming in under the Eclipse Runtime
being something other then another Runtime project that (afaik) does
everything needed.

Perhaps its my inexperience at eclipse and with the process that
eclipse advocates but:

* Is it not the goal of the Runtime project to encourage the projects
being accepted into it to leverage each other where appropriate, and
where appropriate be each others default components?  indeed one of
our goals with jetty is the be the default implementation for equinox
(which we were before) but also to further enhance that
relationship...we have made a lot of strides on that recently with
hugues's jetty-osgi efforts and will be shortly able to publish a more
comprehensive update site aside from my previous manually created one.

* On the offer to have jetty committers be the responsible party for
providing the integration portion of virgo...correct me if I am wrong
here but wouldn't that be a part of Virgo itself and fall under the
'playing nice with the neighbors' clause for the Eclipse Runtime
project? I am fine with answering questions and helping out where I
can but am lukewarm on taking on new development tasks.

Just so its absolutely clear I am not going on some <rawr>Jetty needs
to be the default container!</rawr> rant here, but I thought it was
the goal that runtime projects are 'encouraged' to use each others as
defaults...our 'default' test platform for osgi related things is now
equinox whereas before (at least I) tested osgi bundles out on felix.

As to the requirements to support existing users, I can offer up us as
an example, we have maintained an external distribution because we
have historical users that expect a certain set of functionality as
well, but we maintain that at The Codehaus since much of it would not
come through the intensive Eclipse IP validation process, third party
integrations etc, but then we also have our eclipse jetty distribution
which bundles only approved, IP clean dependencies in the download
bundles.

anyway..I am looking forward to seeing how this stuff comes together,
it sounds like it could be a fun project and a useful addition to the
eclipse runtime family


cheers!
jesse

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jesse mcconnell
jesse.mcconnell@xxxxxxxxx



On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:54, Mike Milinkovich
<mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Please keep these conversations visible and transparent. The PMC list or the
> Virgo forum would both be fine.
>
>> I am happy to continue the discussion, preferably on the Virgo forum, or
>> via email or skype (glyn.normington) if you would prefer an informal chat.
>
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