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Re: AW: [rap-dev] Is RAP sufficient to build web-based IDEs?
Wrapping FCKEditor in an Qooxdoo/RAP widget should not be the most problematic part. I think the biggest problem is to map the functionalities of StyledText to the features of FCKEditor and vice versa. I see the point that a standalone rich text editor is needed but in my eyes the StyledText widget is much more desirable. The first step here would be to see if the features of FCKEditor and StyledText can be mapped in most points.
Another thing to consider is the complexity of the widget. FCKEditor not only has some nice rich text functions but also many many other features like file upload, css classes, toolbars and so on. So the first step would be to determinate how to split the FCKEditor to only use the rich text component. Maybe the editor is already built with such a fine-grained modularity.
I had some thoughts about this some time ago and another real killer feature would be to have something like a patch-engine behind the scenes (on both sides) so we only need to transfer the changes in the text and not the whole text from server to client and v.v..
Contributing such a thing also requires some legal reviews. As I can see FCKEditor is licenced under GPL, LGPL and MPL and at the moment I'm not sure if this is compilant with EPL. This means that using FCKEditor as rich text component in RAP is only possible IF the licences work together, if not we could only host the EPL part (the wrapper).
I'm really looking forward for contributions. I'm sure the community could effort something like that and it would be great as daily RAP users to give something back to the project :) 

Greets
 Benny

Stefan Roeck wrote:

Hello Lars,

do you plan to contribute your FCK-Wrapper classes to the RAP sandbox or share it in some way? I'm sure there are a lot of people who are interested in that (including me :-)).

Regards,
Stefan.




-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: rap-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rap-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Lars Martin
Gesendet: Montag, 10. März 2008 12:22
An: RAP project development-related communication
Betreff: Re: [rap-dev] Is RAP sufficient to build web-based IDEs?
A rich html widget based on FCKeditor is not a problem. See the attachment below. This was just a first try and not yet finished. 

Regards, Lars

Mike Wrighton schrieb:
I'm certainly interested in developing a RAP widget which can provide at least the basic functions of StyledText so that I can do syntax coloring. If anyone could give me any guidance on this or point me in the right direction to get started, that would be great. 

Mike
On 09/03/2008, *Jochen Krause* <jkrause@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkrause@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: 

     >From my point of view StyledText is a serious problem right now.
    But richer client technology and better scalability of the browser
    runtimes may cure that problem within a year or two. I think the
    other problems can be resolved. It is important to note that you
    want to make sure that your core bundles are multi-session ready.

    I can imagine having a "development server" where the tools run
    directly on the server with multiple users working on the same
    projects / models. But getting there is not our main focus at the
    moment. If you are interested in driving this forward let us know.

    Jochen



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    <mailto:rap-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Frank Appel
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    Hi,

    I think there are a good deal of problems to solve. The first one
    you mentioned already - StyledText. I didn't do too much research,
    but I think this alone will be a bunch of work to do. A text editor
    also does a lot of things from which I would suggest that the
    implementation makes heavy use of key-events. It's at least
    questionable if we can provide a key-event implementation that
    scales on such a usecase. Last thing that comes into my mind by
    doing a little brainstorming is that eclipse uses the workspace for
    file storage, but with RAP the workspace is shared across the sessions.

    Ciao
    Frank

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    Hi,

    This is a bit of an open question, but I want to get a an idea of
    how feasible people think it would be to develop a web-based IDE
    using RAP e.g. a cut-down version of the CDT or JDT? From what I
    understand, the StyledText widget is missing at the moment which
    appears to be the first main issue. Would implementing StyledText be
    a big job and are there any other major hurdles?

    Mike

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