I
hope you mean with the RC4 (not RC3) build, right?
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...Beth
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<graycol.gif>Dave
Wootton---02/14/2013 12:39:20 PM---I ran a test with
the RC3 build on 32 bit Windows XP. I had to reduce
the -Xmx setting to -Xmx900m.
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I
ran a test with the RC3 build on 32 bit Windows XP. I
had to reduce the -Xmx setting to -Xmx900m. Once I did
that I was able to start Eclipse.
I created a synchronized project, edited a coupe
files, built the application, ran it using the PE
resource manager on AIX, ran a simple LoadLeveler
resource manager test and a simple LSF resource
manager test. The corresponding monitoring views were
also used.
No problems found.
Dave
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OK that build (win32) works for me on a WinXP machine
with 1.43 GB of RAM
(The same machine did indeed fail with the Error 'Failed
to create the Java Virtual Machine' on
RC3)
Other experiences?
...Beth
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IBM STG - High Performance Computing Tools
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<graycol.gif>Beth
Tibbitts---02/14/2013 09:07:46 AM---Please test,
PTP'ers ... they are holding up the final EPP build
for us... Download RC4 trial build
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Please test, PTP'ers ... they are holding up the final
EPP build for us...
Download RC4 trial build here:
http://build.eclipse.org/technology/epp/epp_build/juno/download/20130214-1223/
windows -xmx is i believe 1024 and the others are 2048
...Beth
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<graycol.gif>Dave
Wootton---02/14/2013 08:49:25 AM---I think the upper
limit for me is about 900M with the SR2 RC3 build,
determined by trial and error.
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I think the upper limit for me is about 900M with the
SR2 RC3 build, determined by trial and error. Beyond
that I get the popup. I did get SR2 RC2 to start once
at 1024M. I'm not sure this is a problem anywhere
other than Windows XP 32 bit. I don't have access to
Windows 7 32 bit to try this.
Dave
From: Beth
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although, i think Dave said that he had to go down to
768 to get it to work. So some folks are still going
to get it....
...Beth
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Tibbitts---02/14/2013 12:20:51 AM---(Sorry, I've been
away all afternoon and evening.) Yes there's something
about SR2 that makes the 2G
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(Sorry, I've been away all afternoon and evening.)
Yes there's something about SR2 that makes the 2G
setting for win32 not work any more.
I tend to agree with Markus in that an eclipse that
won't even start is confusing for new users.
I think for win32 systems with a lesser amount of
memory(?) that the error now means that using
realistic-sized synchronized projects isn't going to
work.
But I'd rather they see an out of memory exception
when they need more, rather than the error we now
have, and it won't start.
I think Markus' suggestion makes sense to try. Wish
it weren't so late in the cycle.
Can you build tomorrow first with this as you
suggested please, Markus? Win 1G, others 2G. Thanks.
...Beth
Beth Tibbitts
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most people do with the parallel package is try to
create a synchronized project. Un
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The first thing most people do with the parallel package
is try to create a synchronized project. Unfortunately
for a project of any reasonable size, this will require
over 1G, hence the reason we chose 2G as the default. I
would prefer that at least the linux and macosx packages
remain at this level.
Greg
On Feb 13, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Markus Knauer <mknauer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hmm, thanks for the Mr. package... but I don't know a
real solution.
The current settings with 2GB are in place since Juno
SR1 (see bug 389517) and I agree that this seems a bit
high.
In the .product file this can be set for all platforms
or for specific platforms only (i.e. restricted to
linux, macosx, windows), but it is *not* possible to
restrict it to an architecture (e.g. x86 or x86_64). It
might be possible to specify it in this granularity in
the p2.inf file, but I never tried to add this kind of
argument there.
One solution could be to remove these VM arguments from
the 'all platforms' section, and apply individual
settings to the different platforms like the example
below. Note that I chose a different, lower value for
windows.
<launcherArgs>
<programArgs>-product
org.eclipse.epp.package.parallel.product
--launcher.defaultAction openFile</programArgs>
<programArgsWin>--launcher.XXMaxPermSize
256M</programArgsWin>
<vmArgs>-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-Dhelp.lucene.tokenizer=standard</vmArgs>
<vmArgsLin>-XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Xms512m
-Xmx2048m</vmArgsLin>
<vmArgsMac>-XstartOnFirstThread
-Dorg.eclipse.swt.internal.carbon.smallFonts
-XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Xms512m
-Xmx2048m</vmArgsMac>
<vmArgsSol>-Xms512m
-Xmx2048m</vmArgsSol>
<vmArgsWin>-Xms512m
-Xmx1024m</vmArgsWin>
</launcherArgs>
If I were you I'd try to use a lower value, e.g. the
1024 MB, instead of the 2024 MB for all platforms. I
believe that users are used to modify this value in the
eclipse.ini if they are running into out-of-memory,
heap, etc. errors, but users are not familiar with an
application that doesn't start at all. In my opinion
that's the worse case and leads to a very bad first
impression.
Regards,
Markus
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Beth Tibbitts <tibbitts@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
yes but there's a Win setting not specific to win32.
Querying Markus (Mr. package) for advice on epp-dev
list
...Beth
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Navarro ---02/13/2013 11:08:50 AM---In the product
file, can't you specify memory settings by platform so
win32 could get bumped down,
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In the product file, can't you specify memory settings
by platform so win32 could get bumped down, but all
others would remain at 2048m?
Chris
On 02/13/2013 10:00 AM, Greg Watson wrote:
Is this only for the win32 package, or for all
architectures? I would rather have win32 failing than
all the other architectures failing with out of memory
errors.
Greg
On Feb 13, 2013, at 10:53 AM, Beth Tibbitts <tibbitts@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Markus, we are seeing several win32 testers not being
about to launch on WinXP win32 without bumping down
the
eclipse.ini -XMX value
We didn't see this in the previous release (SR1)
I just bumped it down in epp.product from the default
-xmx 2048 to 1024, maybe we need 768, but i notice
that cpp's is even lower, 512m.
Advice???
Lower might be safer so at least new users can bring
it up. an OutOfMemoryException later would lead you
to increase it later, at lease.
What do you think?
...Beth
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I also commented on the bug, I can get it to run with
512m and 1024m for -Xmx, I think it's just a memory
allocation request compared to what the machine actually
has available. The default is 2048 (kinda high for a 32
bit machine which can only utilize 4gb max).
Chris
On 02/13/2013 08:43 AM, Brian Watt wrote:
Yes, I got something like that. Added what I saw to
the bugzilla.
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Tibbitts---02/13/2013 08:14:29 AM---Is anyone else
seeing what Dave sees?
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=400004
From: Beth
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To: ptp-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx,
Date: 02/13/2013 08:14 AM
Subject: [ptp-dev] Error 'Failed to create
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Is anyone else seeing what Dave sees?
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=400004
...Beth
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