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Re: [platform-ui-dev] [ui-best-practices-working-group] Icons in Eclipse Neon still small for people with visual problems

Hi Kristof,

see http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/EclipseRCP/article.html and
afterwards http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/EclipseProductDeployment/article.html
for an introduction into Eclipse application development.

Best regards, Lars

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 11:59 AM,  <kristof.mulier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> Thank you so much for your answer.
> How do I "create my own product definition file, or adjust the one used in the aggregator"?
> I've no experience in that.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Kristof
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: "Lars Vogel" <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Aan: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list." <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Verzonden: Donderdag 23 juni 2016 11:50:37
> Onderwerp: Re: [platform-ui-dev] [ui-best-practices-working-group] Icons in Eclipse Neon still small for people with visual problems
>
> Hi Kristof,
>
> currently our SDK build does not use root level features, I opened
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=496629 for this. To
> remove JDT from the build you would currently have to create your own
> product definition file, or adjust the one used in the aggregator.
>
> For your requirement you would also need to adjust and compile the CDT
> plug-ins. I have no experience with building CDT.
>
> Best regards, Lars
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:59 PM,  <kristof.mulier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> Thank you so much! Your answer really helped me :-)
>> When I tried to build the Eclipse IDE from source code, I cloned the git repository:
>>
>> git://git.eclipse.org/gitroot/platform/eclipse.platform.releng.aggregator.git
>>
>> Apparently this results in a working Eclipse IDE - but with the JDT plugin installed. How can I build a barebones Eclipse IDE? Or how can I build an Eclipse IDE with CDT installed?
>> Thank you so much for your help.
>>
>> This is the corresponding StackOverflow question:
>>
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37929070/building-eclipse-ide-from-scratch-how-to-choose-cdt-over-jdt
>>
>> Kind greetings,
>>
>> Kristof
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lars Vogel" <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list." <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "User Interface Architecture Working Group" <ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:47:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [platform-ui-dev] [ui-best-practices-working-group] Icons in Eclipse Neon still small for people with visual problems
>>
>> Hi Kristof,
>>
>> you should be able to control the scale factor via the command line:
>>
>> ./eclipse -vmargs -Dswt.autoScale=300
>>
>> Maybe this help you with your use case.
>>
>> Best regards, Lars
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 3:37 PM,  <kristof.mulier@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> Thank you so much for your reply.
>>> I'm happy to hear that the Oxygen release will have better scaling.
>>> You mention that " Another option would be for interested parties to provide
>>> bigger icons. The framework will pick them up if installed." What do you
>>> mean by this? I would be happy to contribute if possible. But I'm still a
>>> newbie to the eclipse source code.
>>>
>>> I've run a custom build of the Eclipse IDE source code (git repository) on
>>> my computer. Just before doing the build, I activate a batch script that
>>> takes all the .png, .jpg, .bmp and .ico files from the eclipse source
>>> folders and stretches them out. It works for some, but not all icons. Please
>>> have a look at my StackOverflow question. I really hope you can help me out:
>>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37929996/building-eclipse-ide-from-scratch-making-bigger-icons-sometimes-successful
>>>
>>> Thank you so much.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Kristof
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list."
>>> <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Cc: ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 3:10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ui-best-practices-working-group] [platform-ui-dev] Icons in
>>> Eclipse Neon still small for people with        visual problems
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Kristof
>>>
>>> We're working on scaling for the Oxygen release. Another option would be for
>>> interested parties to provide bigger icons. The framework will pick them up
>>> if installed.
>>>
>>> Dani
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:        kristof.mulier@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> To:        ui-best-practices-working-group@xxxxxxxxxxx,
>>> platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Date:        22.06.2016 13:04
>>> Subject:        [platform-ui-dev] Icons in Eclipse Neon still small for
>>> people with        visual problems
>>> Sent by:        platform-ui-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Eclipse developers,
>>>
>>> I noticed that the icon size has improved from 16x16 pixels to 32x32 pixels
>>> in the newest Neon release. This is a huge step, and a relief for people
>>> with visual impairments and people working on a 4K display. Nevertheless,
>>> 32x32 pixels is still too small for many users. I have invested quite a lot
>>> of time to solve the issue myself. Please refer to these StackOverflow
>>> question to see the details:
>>>
>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/37929996/building-eclipse-ide-from-scratch-making-bigger-icons-sometimes-successful
>>>
>>> Are there any plans to make it possible to stretch the icons from 32x32
>>> pixels to larger sizes (perhaps 64x64 or even 128x128 pixels)? Will it be
>>> possible to stretch the icon size manually in Eclipse - through some menu -
>>> instead of relying on the dpi-settings of the display? Developing code
>>> should not be a privilege for those with sharp eyesight - it should be
>>> accessible to all.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your time. All help is very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Kind greetings,
>>>
>>> Kristof Mulier_______________________________________________
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