Re: [platform-ui-dev] Support a less disruptive work mode by moving popu

["Daniel Megert" <daniel_megert@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Sounds good.

I agree with Lars that we should first
improve some areas before we try to come up with guidelines and write a
new framework,.

Dani



From:      
 Lars Vogel <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To:      
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UI component developers list." <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:      
 22.06.2016 15:13
Subject:    
   Re: [platform-ui-dev]
Support a less disruptive work mode by moving popups and dialogs to inline
editing and notifications
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Thanks Stefan and Sopot for your support on this issue.

I think we can add bugs which relates to this work to the wiki. For
example https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=495369which
would allow to rename resources inline (depends on
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=74892).

Also we should work with other teams, like the EGit team on some of
their popups and dialogs, e.g.,
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=473538.
They also work
on an improved find. I personally would like to see a similar search
popup for the text editors if I press Ctrl+F. See
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=496278for the EGit bug

Once we have fixed the most common annoyances in platform (and other
popular extensions like the EGit plug-in), we can also update the UI
guidelines. But I think we first should lead with good examples.

Best regards, Lars

On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Sopot Cela <scela@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I also support this and actually have work in my pipe to handle some
of the cases. We sometimes even have dialog upon dialog scenarios like
it was with the Capabilities preference (bug 488214). I am planning to
work on the editing of environment variables in bug 483084 which perfectly
fits with this email's concern.
>
> Overall I'm up for having a super bug tracking these cases and a guideline
for the most re-occurring patterns.
>
> Sopot
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> Van: "Lars Vogel" <lars.vogel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Aan: "Eclipse Platform UI component developers list."
<platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Verzonden: Dinsdag 21 juni 2016 18:48:04
>> Onderwerp: [platform-ui-dev] Support a less disruptive work mode
by moving popups and dialogs to inline editing and
>> notifications
>>
>> Friends of Platform UI,
>>
>> This week I delivered a(nother) Android training session with
Android Studio.
>>
>> While I definitely think our Eclipse IDE is superior in terms
of
>> stability and performance,  I think IntelliJ has sometimes
a nicer
>> user workflow.
>>
>> The workflow in IntelliJ itself is rarely disrupted by popups
or dialog.
>>
>> I think we should improve support for this in our framework. Bad
>> examples in the Eclipse IDE are IMHO EGit, which shows popups
for
>> almost every operation. Or the refactoring or the search operation
>> with their annoying dialog, typically over the interesting content.
>>
>> I therefore clarified and extended a bit the 4.7 target which
was
>> originally called "Migrate the Mylyn notification framework":
>> ---
>> Support a less disruptive work mode by moving popups and dialogs
to
>> inline editing and notifications
>>
>> Eclipse popups and dialogs can distract the workflow of the user.
>> The Platform UI team should evaluate if popups can be avoided
and
>> notifications or inline editing can be used.
>> For example, renaming a resource should be possible without a
dialog.
>> Notifications about a finished job should not require a dialog,
etc.
>>
>> To archive this the Eclipse Platform UI team plans to migrate
the
>> Mylyn notification framework to platform UI. This change has been
>> discussed with the Mylyn team and was well received.
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Best regards, Lars
>>
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