Re: [platform-ui-dev] Proposal: hierarchical Bookmarks and Tasks...

[Nick Edgar <Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The current split of the Tasks and Problems view is by no means final for 
R3.0.  However, the UI team does not currently have any work planned on 
the Tasks (or Problems) views.
We are focussing on high impact areas at the moment: e.g. RCP, 
scalability, responsiveness.

All the ideas below are worthwhile.  I've wanted to use a TableTree in the 
Tasks view myself for a long time.

The "recipe with automatic tracking" metaphor that Bob describes for 
complex, long-running tasks, is what we call a "cheat sheet".  WSADIE has 
support for this, and it's something we would like to push down to the 
Workbench level.  There's even a plan item for this: 
http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=36946, but alas it is also 
deferred.

If any of you would like to work on improving the Tasks view in Eclipse, I 
would encourage it.

Nick






Randy Hudson <hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx>
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+1.  See previous posts suggesting TableTree instead of List: 
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/platform-ui-dev/msg01133.html 

...and "marker sets": 
http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/platform-ui-dev/msg01135.html 

Using a table tree gives an almost logarithmic reduction of items. Whereas 
splitting the old View into Tasks and Problems views only gives a 
reduction of 1/2.  I thought after that previous discussion, it was agreed 
that Tasks and Problems would be merged again.  Is this still planned? 

-Randy 




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I support Michael Scharf's comments.

I find one of the hardest things to do is keep track of the zillion little
coding details yet undone. As a developer, what I need a whole lot more 
than
yet another refactoring twist is a sort of "ToDo list on steroids" that is
integrated with the editor and makes it really easy to keep notes and
bookmarks side-by-side. The little TODO comment feature doesn't get it. 
When
there are hundreds of these in an effectively randomly organized list, 
they
are worst than useless.

What I have always thought I would like to see (I've never seen it) is
something that is organized like recipes. To accomplish this task, first 
do
this, then this, etc. Then a way to categorize and organize the recipes,
create new ones, mark things as done, link to files, etc. It would be a
truly great feature if Help for multi-step tasks could be organized this
way.

Bob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Scharf" <Michael-Scharf@xxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:31 PM
Subject: [platform-ui-dev] Proposal: hierarchical Bookmarks and Tasks...


> Hi,
>
> Whenever I use bookmarks or add tasks by hand, I am frustrated,
> because they are all put into a linear list. More than a few
> bookmarks/tasks are hard to manage. I would really like to have
> hierarchical bookmarks and tasks.
>
> Some use-cases for bookmarks/tasks:
> - I am trying to learn about some sourcecode or I want to
>    learn about a subsystem (like actions, tables, wizards)
>    For each of the subsystems I collect a set of relevant
>    bookmarks of examples or of how the mechanism works.
> - I am debugging and I note some important "spots"
>    that I want to look at later.
> - I have to implement a feature and I want to add all tasks
>    for that feature into the tasklist (under a common root
>    node)
>
> OK, a simple way out is use prefixes on the item names and
> sort on name to create a custom hierarchy. But that I find
> a bit annoying...
>
> I would also like to have "hand" sorting on bookmarks. This
> is useful when I want to "store" a control flow with bookmarks.
>
> I don't know if this has been proposed before (I couldn't find any
> entry in bugzilla nor anything on the webpage).
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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