Re: [platform-ui-dev] Preference pages in 2.1 harder to read than 2.0

[Tod_Creasey@xxxxxxxxxx]

>And what about orientation of Radio choices? 

Do you mean horiztonal rather tan vertical? Many of them are horizontal 
now as our dialogs have generally been too long and narrow and were 
getting cut off in low resolutions.

Tod





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Can we ask the SWT team for a FLAT style setting hint for Group, so that 
the etched borders don't appear.  Then you would have accessiblility and 
free indentation. 
And what about orientation of Radio choices? 

thanks, 
Randy 




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Yes Randy this was done for accessibility purposes - Jaws 4.0 does not 
always return the result of a call to IAccessible but it does get group 
boxes consistently. Readable labels are not the issue here - for a 
screenreader to determine that a text is associated with a widget it 
checks for one odf two things

1) It is a label and a sibling of the associated widget on the same line
2) It is some sort of labelled parent. 

A readable CLabel does not solve the issue of title for radio groups etc.

Tod





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A few of the preference pages ("Java" for example) in 2.1 are using SWT 
Group controls now instead of a Label followed by indentation. I thought I 

saw an article on the website saying the groupboxes should be used 
sparingly. They give the pages a "busy" appearance, especially when you 
see 4 in a row. 

Was this change made for accessibility? I hope not.  I could easily write 
my own version of CLabel that will receive focus (and therefore be 
screen-readable).  If this was done for accessiblity, why do other pages 
continue to use the Label followed by indented controls (e.g. 
"Install/Update")? 

The way in which Groups are used has changed too.  In 2.0, radio buttons 
would be laid out vertically and could be easily read 90% if the time. Now 

we see a mixture of horizontal and vertical radio buttons. I guess this 
decision is based both on the number of choices and the length of the text 

for each choice, but I would ask that vertical be favored whenever 
possible. 

Randy Hudson


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