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This idea has already surfaced. Emacs supports the notion of 'major modes'
similar to Eclipse's 'configurations'.
Emacs can change mode automatically based on file type, or a user can
choose an explicit mode. Eclipse has only the latter functionality right
now, but I could certainly see the addition of a small UI for 'automatic
configuration' behavior -> a mapping of configurations to specific file
types.
If we did this, or perhaps independant of this, I would also like to
consider what users thought about making configuration selection more
prominent in the Eclipse UI - perhaps as prominent as a small combo box on
the main window's status bar.
Chris.
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1. Re: Customizable Keybindings in Eclipse 2.1 M3 (Nick Edgar)
2. Re: Bugs we're fixing for M3 (Nick Edgar)
----- Message from "Nick Edgar" <Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx> on Fri, 15 Nov 2002
09:41:03 -0500 -----
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Subject: Re: [platform-ui-dev] Customizable Keybindings in
Eclipse 2.1 M3
Randy,
We have no plans to support keybinding configurations on a per file type
basis for 2.1.
It's an interesting idea though. Please file a feature request. Perhaps
you or somebody else would be interested in contributing such a feature.
Nick
Randy Hudson <hudsonr@xxxxxxxxxx>
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My understanding is that scopes are defined by the application, and not
the User. Also, scopes are nested inside of a configuration, correct? And
only configurations are user-selectable.
Regardless of where the Keybindings for HTML and WYWIWYG belong (config.
vs. scope), the user needs to be able to choose them separately for
unrelated types of Editors.
"Simon Arsenault" <Simon_Arsenault@xxxxxxx>
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See comments below
Simon :-)
Randy Hudson
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The Keybinding implementation seems to be based on the following
assumption: there is only User "Configuration". I don't understand why
this is true. Why would I want an emacs KeyBinding to edit an RTF file, or
an HTML file (in WYSIWYG mode)? For an RTF file, I should be able to
choose
configurations like "Microsoft Word", "WordPerfect", etc. For an HTML
file,
I should be able to choose configurations like "Page Designer", or
"DreamWeaver".
SA> Using scopes, a key configuration can accomplish this. That is, you
could have Ctrl+B to do the bold action in an WYSIWYG editor scope (for
example HTML), and Ctrl+B to do a build in a coding editor scope (for
example a Java editor).
The configuration for these types of editors is not related to the
configuration for "source" editors, which is the only configuration option
that I see in the current builds. Is it the responsibility of the plugin
provider who owns an HTML editor to host the preference page for these
additional confurations? If so, can they hook into the Keybinding
management system, and reuse the UI that let's Users redefine bindings?
SA> Hopefully, the workbench will define a number of well known scopes
which editor developers can use. Then anyone can provide the accelerator
set(s) - for example, say a "Page Designer" style for the "graphical
editing" scope.
-Randy Hudson
"Chris McLaren"
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Customizable Keybindings in Eclipse 2.1 M3
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There is a new keybinding architecture in place for Eclipse 2.1 M3. Users
can now customize key sequences to invoke many of the actions within
Eclipse.
The keybinding engine itself should be quite stable by this point, but
there is some work which remains to be completed over the next couple of
weeks:
1. The UI (located on the preference dialog -> workbench -> key bindings)
is a very recent addition (I can count the hours). It is not functionally
complete and there are known and obvious bugs.
2. The plugin.xml files need to be generally reviewed across eclipse to
ensure actions are properly exposed for key binding customization, as well
as ensuring that the out-of-the-box keybindings for various platforms are
correctly defined.
3. Full documentation on our keybinding architecture needs to be completed
and disseminated.
Known issues in the keybindings UI:
1. You can't type in a new key sequence yet. For now, you are limited to
choosing one of the existing key sequences and overriding actions therein.
2. I have hidden row selection on the table until such time as I can make
it useful to select an existing key binding for editing.
3. Non-destructive rendering bug: when you customize a binding and press
set, the default value will always be printed as '(undefined').
4. Advanced features for displaying out-of-the-box keybinding conflicts
between plugins are missing.
5. Tooltip descriptions and icons are not being displayed for actions.
6. I plan on removing the 'Set' button entirely to enable a live and more
intuitive view between the primary controls and the table.
7. I am considering adding a means to display all the key sequences for a
given action.
Thanks,
Chris
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----- Message from "Nick Edgar" <Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx> on Fri, 15 Nov 2002
11:47:27 -0500 -----
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Subject: Re: [platform-ui-dev] Bugs we're
fixing for M3
Bob,
We have been investigating this one, but were unable to get a fix in for
M3.
Nick
"Bob Foster" <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
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24966 [Key Bindings] Ctrl+Space Accelerator not working
is pretty darn serious.
Bob
PS Some of these bug numbers, e.g., 26221, don't correspond to the bug
summaries cited.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick Edgar" <Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx>
To: <platform-ui-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 11:30 AM
Subject: [platform-ui-dev] Bugs we're fixing for M3
> Here is the list of bugs we're fixing for today's build at 5:00. Please
> hold off releasing other changes.
> If you're not working on these, please continue testing.
>
> If you know of any other serious problems that I have missed, please
bring
> them to my attention asap.
>
> ID
> Sev
> Pri
> Owner
> TargetM
> Summary
> 26160
> nor
> P3
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Properties View] Keybindings ignored in properties view
> 26172
> nor
> P2
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Keybindings] Keybindings preference page has strange rad...
> 26196
> maj
> P2
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Key Bindings] No mnemonics for items in Keyboard shortcu...
> 26219
> cri
> P2
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Key Bindings] Not finding messages for key binding.
> 26353
> maj
> P2
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [KeyBindings] infopop broken on solaris
> 26361
> cri
> P1
> Chris_McLaren@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [KeyBindings] Some keyboard navigation keys broken (Ctrl+...
> 26221
> maj
> P2
> Eduardo_Pereira@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Perspectives] Noticeable menubar "flash" when switching ...
> 26365
> maj
> P2
> Eduardo_Pereira@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Tasks] Task view not using filter
> 26126
> cri
> P1
> Knut_Radloff@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Navigator] NPE in GotoActionGroup
> 3840
> cri
> P2
> Nick_Edgar@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Viewers] free expansion of jar happening when deleting p...
> 26366
> nor
> P3
> Tod_Creasey@xxxxxxx
> 2.1 M3
> [Dialogs] Need to improve label positioning in progress d...
>
>
> Thanks,
> Nick
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