I had a feeling it was something like
that. Thanks, Curtis.
I think option 1 may be best for our case,
but I honestly don’t know what that flag might be. Any suggestions? I’m
assuming you mean the help plugin.
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Ah I know why.. it's because the help server hasn't
started up again. It only starts up when someone requests help (on demand).
Unfortunately it has no way of knowing your browser is trying to get help
because in order to know that it would need to have the app server started and
listening to the port. Unfortunately I do not see a simple way to accomplish
this at the moment. You can open an enhancement to request this if you like.
Here are some alternative approaches I can think of at the moment; some of them
may not be feasible for you but I'll mention them anyway.
1.
Have your plugin set a flag that it has to poke the help system on startup so
that the help server will automatically start up again next time
2.
Store the tutorial as static html files in the workspace metadata, like PDE
does for previewing schema documentation
3.
Have your plugin manage a separate local infocenter to host the tutorial.
4.
Store the tutorial content on a public infocenter.
5.
Notify the user that they'll have to reopen help on startup to continue the
tutorial.
Thanks,
Curtis
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Looks like the connection’s getting
refused. For the static port number, I’m using one of the numbers given
to me by Eclipse when it was setting them dynamically. Is there a better
choice?
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forhelpin external browser
Thanks, Curtis. The port number does indeed remain the same
between IDE instances. Unfortunately, after IDE restart links in the
(still-open) help browser are no-op. Neither topic links nor the TOC respond to
clicking – there’s a bit of hourglass, then nothing.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,
Steve
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Hi Steve,
You can use the port preference for the org.eclipse.help.appserver plugin:
http://help.eclipse.org/help31/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/help_preferences.html
This preference is also exposed in the UI under the Help -> Help Server
preference page.
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Hello – Is it possible to specify that the IDE should use the same port number
for retrieving help? It appears that Eclipse changes the port number on IDE
restart when an external browser is used.
I’m not using infocenter, where I see a port number can be specified.
This is local help. The problem goes like this:
1 User is in the IDE, launches help (in an external browser) to work through a
tutorial.
2 The tutorial requests that the user change workspace, or restart the IDE.
3 The browser instance remains open, but when the IDE has restarted, its links
can no longer be reached. The user has to restart help and find the topic they
were in to keep going.
Thanks,
Steve
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