RE: [platform-swt-dev] not seeing character underlined when setting mnem

[Carolyn MacLeod <Carolyn_MacLeod@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks, Nick - well said.
We should all be testing for accessibility
more often.
Everybody on this mailing list - if
you use XP, please do as Randy said:

Go to the Windows Control Panel->Display Properties->Appearance->Effects...,
and disable "Hide underlined letters for keyboard navigation until
I press the Alt key". 

Then, please try using the keyboard
more. As Nick said, Shift+F10 brings up the context menu. For other keyboard
shortcuts in Eclipse, see Help->Show Key Assist... (in Eclipse 3.1 M2
or later). Better still, type Ctrl+Shift+L   ;)
Pretend you don't have a mouse... believe
it or not, once the keyboard shortcuts become hardwired in your brain,
you will become more productive.

Thanks, all.
Carolyn

Nick Edgar/Ottawa/IBM@IBMCA
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Invoking the context menu via the keyboard, using
the menu key or 
Shift+F10, should also show the mnemonics regardless of the setting.
When developing eclipse plugins, though, I recommend disabling the 
auto-hide feature, to simplify testing for accessibility.

Nick




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James, 

You are describing a visual setting that Microsoft (in their usual wisdom)
decided to make default in Windows XP.  In a stroke of genius, this
effect 
applies to popup menus as well.  Pressing the ALT key of course make
the 
popup disappear, so it's impossible to see mnemonics. 

Go to Display Properties->Appearance->Effects, and disable this "feature".


-randy 



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Hi Carolyn ? I am seeing the mnemonics underlined on the menu bar. But
I 
am still unable to see the mnemonics underlined on my context menu, either
associated with a tree viewer specified declaratively, or associated with
a Canvas component specified programmatically. 
  
Thanks for your help ? james barnett 
  



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With Eclipse open in front of you, and no dialogs open or anything, press
and hold the "ALT" key. 
Do you see the mnemonics underlined in the menu bar (F for File, E for
Edit, ...)? 
Now, still holding the "ALT" key down, press "F". The
File menu should 
drop down. 
Do you see the mnemonics underlined in the File menu's menu items (N for
New, etc, ...)? 

If not, then file a bug report. 
Carolyn 


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I see the visual hint in MS Word and am seeing the behavior Mark 
describes, but still no visual indicator on my menu items....

Any other ideas, or should I file a bug?

Thanks -- james barnett

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[mailto:platform-swt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Phippard
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I have noticed mnemonics sometimes do not show up in dialogs until you
"do 

something".  For example, if you bring up the Eclipse Preferences
dialog 
in XP the mnemonics on the Restore Defaults and Apply buttons does not
appear until you do something with the keyboard, such as press the Tab
key.

The mnemonics work, you just do not see the visual hint.

Mark

platform-swt-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 01/05/2005 09:29:33 AM:

> 
> This is Windows XP behavior.  You can turn it off using a setting
from 
the 
> control panel that escapes me at the moment.  Try a native application.
> 
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> Hi ? I?m trying to use mnemonics in a MenuItem but am not seeing the
> designated character underlined. However, when the mnemonic character
is 


> pressed, the associated menu item is selected. 
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> Anyone know why I?m not seeing the character underlined? 
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> Thanks for your help ? james barnett 
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