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Re: [platform-dev] Increase initial size for Eclipse help

We shouldn’t do anything to make existing graphics (like screenshots) look more bad as the already look today (especially on high resolution displays).

 
Agree. So using larger screenshots, with CSS to show a reduced version on smaller displays, and a "magnifier" to show a full size version is about the best we can do.
 
McQ.
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Dear all,

 

I am in the process to replace icons used in the help documents with SVG version of these icons.

See https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=548008

 

In most cases these SVGs are available anyhow because we use these SVGs to render (high resolution) PNGs to be used in the “normal” plugins.

Scaling up these isn’t a problem.

For Screenshots that are used in the help documents SVGs are not an option.

Diagrams used in the documentation (like used in https://help.eclipse.org/2019-06/index.jsp?topic=%2Forg.eclipse.platform.doc.user%2FgettingStarted%2Fintro%2Foverview.htm&cp=0_0 ) can also be changed to SVGs. For this example I have already done this with https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/143451/ so scaling wouldn’t also be

a problem for these.

 

We shouldn’t do anything to make existing graphics (like screenshots) look more bad as the already look today (especially on high resolution displays).

 

 

Regards,

Matthias

 

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Date: Thursday, 11. July 2019 at 10:47
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Subject: Re: [platform-dev] Increase initial size for Eclipse help

 

I agree on the modernization of help.

 

In the short term we could use increase of initial size and resizing of images using css. As resizing causes images to lose information while downsizing. These images would appear quite bad on the first look.

I will do some experiments on how to include a magnifier.

 

Thanks

Sravan

 

From: Mike Wilson <Mike_Wilson@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [platform-dev] Increase initial size for Eclipse help

 

I don't see what the *initial* size for the help window has to do with anything. Screenshots should scale to fit if the window is too small (ideally with a "magnifier" tool to show them full size, if required).

 

The help system UI (and likely the backend too) really desperately needs to be modernized. Responsive UIs are table stakes now.

 

McQ.

 

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Date: Tue, Jul 9, 2019 6:14 AM
 

Hi,

 

Initial size for eclipse help is set at 1024x768. This resulted in having max size of images in N&N and help documentation to 520. We are considering increasing this to 1600x900. This would allow us to have screenshots/images in help files/N&N up to 720 pixels.

 

If any one has objections please let us know in Bug 547897 - Investigate column widths for N&N documentation

 

Thanks

Sravan

 

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