Skip to main content
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [List Home]
Re: [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug

This conversation should move to "jdt-debug-dev". Please add your suggestion to bug# 13834.

Darin
 


"Jed Anderson" <Jed_Anderson@xxxxxxx>
Sent by: platform-debug-dev-admin@xxxxxxxxxxx

08/28/2002 02:44 PM
Please respond to platform-debug-dev

       
        To:        platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
        cc:        
        Subject:        Re: [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug



As a first step, what about a simple dialog where the user can enter a
fully qualified type name and a line number to set a breakpoint?

jkca



|---------+------------------------------------>
|         |           "Darin Wright"           |
|         |           <Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx>   |
|         |           Sent by:                 |
|         |           platform-debug-dev-admin@|
|         |           eclipse.org              |
|         |                                    |
|         |                                    |
|         |           08/28/2002 02:24 PM      |
|         |           Please respond to        |
|         |           platform-debug-dev       |
|         |                                    |
|---------+------------------------------------>
 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 |                                                                                                                     |
 |        To:      platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx                                                                      |
 |        cc:                                                                                                          |
 |        Subject: Re: [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug                                                           |
 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|




The relevant bugs open for investigation are (and there may be others):

http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=13834  - Set breakpoints in
external source
http://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=22834 - Support _expression_
eval with incomplete source

I believe we support other required features:
* Launching an external main type
* Source lookup in external files

Currently, there could be difficulty in setting breakpoints in advance. The
Eclipse SDK does not support random browsing of external files - thus it is
hard to place a breakpoint into a file. When the debugger displays external
source, breakpoints can be set (if we fix bug 13834). However, I do not
know how a user would set breakpoints in advance.

Darin


                                                                         
  "Jed Anderson"                                                        
  <Jed_Anderson@xxxxxxx>                  To:                            
  Sent by:                        platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx        
  platform-debug-dev-admin@eclips         cc:                            
  e.org                                   Subject:        Re:            
                                  [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug  
                                                                         
  08/28/2002 02:02 PM                                                    
  Please respond to                                                      
  platform-debug-dev                                                    
                                                                         





Great.  Thanks for the clarification.

jkca



|---------+------------------------------------>
|         |           "Darin Wright"           |
|         |           <Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx>   |
|         |           Sent by:                 |
|         |           platform-debug-dev-admin@|
|         |           eclipse.org              |
|         |                                    |
|         |                                    |
|         |           08/28/2002 01:21 PM      |
|         |           Please respond to        |
|         |           platform-debug-dev       |
|         |                                    |
|---------+------------------------------------>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|
|
|        To:      platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
|
|        cc:
|
|        Subject: Re: [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug
|
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|





I see stand alone debugging as an enhancement - it was never on the radar
for 2.0. It just so happened that certain ehancements we made (such as
source lookup in external zips/files), that made stand alone debugging more
possible. We never intended the Java debugger to be used as a stand alone
debugger - but there are just enough features available that it is (almost)
possible. Thus, I see this as more "feature" work to enhance the current
support into full fledged stand alone debugging. This also requires feature
work from JDT-UI (support for breakpoints/rulers in Java editor for
external files).

Since there has been a request for better support for stand alone debugging
from a third party, we will investigate what needs to be done. We would
need a committment from JDT-UI as well, before we could declare this as a
2.1 feature. Thus, I am declaring it as "open for investigation in 2.1".

Darin




 "Jed Anderson"
 <Jed_Anderson@xxxxxxx>                  To:
 Sent by:                        platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
 platform-debug-dev-admin@eclips         cc:
 e.org                                   Subject:        Re:
                                 [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug

 08/28/2002 01:02 PM
 Please respond to
 platform-debug-dev






It is unclear if the standalone debugging issue is seen as a 2.1 issue or a
3.0 issue.  What is the general consensus?

My gut feels is that the standalone debugging issue is a 2.1 issue because
it feels more like a bug fix and less like an enhancement.

jkca



|---------+------------------------------------>
|         |           Jared Burns              |
|         |           <jared-eclipse@xxxxxxxxx>|
|         |           Sent by:                 |
|         |           platform-debug-dev-admin@|
|         |           eclipse.org              |
|         |                                    |
|         |                                    |
|         |           08/28/2002 11:55 AM      |
|         |           Please respond to        |
|         |           platform-debug-dev       |
|         |                                    |
|---------+------------------------------------>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|


|
|
|        To:      "Jed Anderson" <Jed_Anderson@xxxxxxx>
|
|        cc:      platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
|
|        Subject: Re: [platform-debug-dev] Standalone debug
|
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|




Darin W addressed this issue here two days ago. See the archives for
his last email titled: "Debug Work Items for 2.1 and Beyond"

- Jared

On Wednesday 28 August 2002 11:41 am, Jed Anderson wrote:
> Is the standalone debug issue being deferred until 3.0?  Or is it a 2.1
> issue?
>
> By standalone debug I mean, remote debugging of an application for which
> you may or may not have java files in your workspace, but probably have
> source for in zips/jars/wars, etc.
>
> jkca
>
> _______________________________________________
> platform-debug-dev mailing list
> platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
> http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-debug-dev
_______________________________________________
platform-debug-dev mailing list
platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-debug-dev




_______________________________________________
platform-debug-dev mailing list
platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-debug-dev





_______________________________________________
platform-debug-dev mailing list
platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-debug-dev





_______________________________________________
platform-debug-dev mailing list
platform-debug-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-debug-dev

Back to the top