platform-ant-dev

[platform-ant-dev] Moving Ant to the run and debug launch groups?

Michael_Rennie@xxxxxxx (Michael Rennie) — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:12:17 GMT

Ant support in Eclipse has always been provided via the external tools launch group, which is a debatable placement, since Ant support is provided in Eclipse and is not actually an external tool.

That being said, in 3.6 we are examining if we should move Ant to the Run and Debug launch groups. There are many benefits to this move but three of the most notable are:

1. You run an Ant build, not an external tool that runs an Ant build
2. You can debug Ant build files, but this functionality is quite hidden without a "debug external tools" launch menu (or the like)
3. we can remove a lot of unnecessary code hacks currently in the launching code to prevent Ant from showing up in "normal" launch groups

On the flip-side, there is the argument that users used to seeing Ant in external tools might think the support is gone if it is moved.

Thoughts / feedback should be added to bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=80552.

Michael Rennie

[platform-ant-dev] Ant contribution

Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx (Darin Wright) — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:24:43 GMT

The map file has been updated for the following Bug changes:
+ Bug 294502. Handling of unknown arguments/targets (FIXED)

The following projects have changed:
org.eclipse.ant.core
org.eclipse.ant.tests.core

Darin

RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

tdalton@xxxxxxx (Dalton, Tom) — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:18:14 GMT

Thanks for the reply! Sadly I have no Java skills to investigate the "pattern match listener" extensions...

I'm having a bit of an issue in that the lack of 'intellisense' type behaviour in either the CDT or the JDK Eclipse 3.5 releases. The development teams are in revolt and are looking at reverting to makefiles, because using the ant external builder, Eclipse is not linking compile problems through Ant/cpptasks to the source code from which they come.

Should it? Is there any plan to provide this through Platform Ant?

My only option at this point is to revert to the weird 3.4 distro that works (but I don't know why it works), or to revert to using make instead of Ant/cpptasks. I think the latter would be a bad step backwards for our project.

Any further help or advice would be much appreciated, ideally I would like platform Ant to be able to cope with cpptasks style console output e.g.:

sgm:
       [cc] Starting dependency analysis for 32 files.
       [cc] 24 files are up to date.
       [cc] 8 files to be recompiled from dependency analysis.
       [cc] 8 total files to be compiled.
       [cc] /local_views/philsad_2d3d_c2_init/source_2d3d/vis3d/sgm/src/neutral/handlers/SGLosHandlerFactory.cpp:55: error: prototype for ÃâËvis3d::sgm::SGHandler* vis3d::sgm::SGLosHandlerFactory::create(vis3d::sgm::SGM*)Ãââ does not match any in class ÃâËvis3d::sgm::SGLosHandlerFactoryÃââ

Is there any hope for supporting this? Would it be easy for me to code it myself, given I have no knowledge of Eclipse internals or Java?!

Thanks again,

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darin Wright
Sent: 09 October 2009 02:43
To: Eclipse Ant integration developers list.
Subject: RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

>
>
> So, I initially though this was a CDT issue and submitted a bug to the
> CDT team. However, they say that the CDT is not responsible for
> parsing the output of Ant / cpptasks, and that whatever is happening
> is as a result of something else. The change to the output between the
> 3.4 and 3.5 releases is purely cosmetic and the underlying parsing has
> not changed. My question therefore is: what is parsing the output of
> ant/cpptasks in the randomly-pluginised 3.4 release?!
> I have no idea what features/plugins are responsible for what, so I
> need some help knowing if platform Ant has any responsibility in this
> area? If so, what plugins am I looking for?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated, as I now see it is possible for
> Eclipse to recognise Ant/cpptasks output and integrate it into the
> ide, but I have no idea why only this one weird distro of eclipse can
> do it, but nothing else can! I am going slightly mad here!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom
>

The Ant console has "pattern match listener" extensions registered with it to recognize certain patterns and create hyper links. If you look at the org.eclipse.ant.ui plug-in you will see 3 pattern matcher extensions registered with the Ant console. The extension point is "org.eclipse.ui.console.consolePatternMatchListeners". I'm not sure if it was one of these matchers that was creating the links for you in earlier releases. Others could have contributed to this extension point.

Darin Wright
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[platform-ant-dev] 3.6M3 test plan has been updated

Michael_Rennie@xxxxxxx (Michael Rennie) — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:49:38 GMT

The test plan for 3.6M3 has been updated here: http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/ant/test_plans/3_6M3.php

Michael Rennie

[platform-ant-dev] Ant Contribution

Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx (Darin Wright) — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:26:47 GMT

The map file has been updated for the following Bug changes:
+ Bug 293202. [Webapp] Error building in workspace - unknown type 
org.eclipse.ant.ui.classpathentry.antHome (FIXED)

The following projects have changed:
org.eclipse.ant.launching

[platform-ant-dev] Ant Contribution

Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx (Darin Wright) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:09:30 GMT

The map file has been updated for the following Bug changes:
+ Bug 292143. update new bundles to include about.html files (FIXED)
+ Bug 292163. Default values on Ant page fail validation (FIXED)
+ Bug 292259. New bundle split causes some restricted access warning when 
it should not (FIXED)
+ Bug 292261. External tools core should not use the deprecated method to 
create launch configuration names (FIXED)

The following projects have changed:
org.eclipse.ant.ui
org.eclipse.core.externaltools
org.eclipse.ant.launching

Darin

[platform-ant-dev] I-build contribution

Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx (Darin Wright) — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:11:01 GMT

The map file has been updated for the following Bug changes:
+ Bug 264338. External tool builder fails in headless mode because of 
dependencies to UI (NEW)
+ Bug 291831. Editing Ant external tool builder should not map resources 
(FIXED)

The following projects have changed:
org.eclipse.core.externaltools
org.eclipse.ant.ui
org.eclipse.ant.core
org.eclipse.ui.externaltools
org.eclipse.ant.tests.ui
org.eclipse.ant.launching

Darin

RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

Darin_Wright@xxxxxxx (Darin Wright) — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 01:43:27 GMT

> 
> 
> So, I initially though this was a CDT issue and submitted a bug to 
> the CDT team. However, they say that the CDT is not responsible for 
> parsing the output of Ant / cpptasks, and that whatever is happening
> is as a result of something else. The change to the output between 
> the 3.4 and 3.5 releases is purely cosmetic and the underlying 
> parsing has not changed. My question therefore is: what is parsing 
> the output of ant/cpptasks in the randomly-pluginised 3.4 release?! 
> I have no idea what features/plugins are responsible for what, so I 
> need some help knowing if platform Ant has any responsibility in 
> this area? If so, what plugins am I looking for?
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated, as I now see it is possible for 
> Eclipse to recognise Ant/cpptasks output and integrate it into the 
> ide, but I have no idea why only this one weird distro of eclipse 
> can do it, but nothing else can! I am going slightly mad here!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Tom
> 

The Ant console has "pattern match listener" extensions registered with it 
to recognize certain patterns and create hyper links. If you look at the 
org.eclipse.ant.ui plug-in you will see 3 pattern matcher extensions 
registered with the Ant console. The extension point is 
"org.eclipse.ui.console.consolePatternMatchListeners". I'm not sure if it 
was one of these matchers that was creating the links for you in earlier 
releases. Others could have contributed to this extension point.

Darin Wright

RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

tom.dalton@xxxxxxx (Dalton, Tom) — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:10:22 GMT

Looking at the list archive, I don't see my email below. Maybe the list never received it? :-(

Anyway,

I have run into a further issue.

I have 3 builds of eclipse:

3.4 SR2 CDT release

3.4 (original?) CDT release with a load of random plugins added - emf, topcased, etc

3.5 SR1 CDT release with the following plugins added (ccrefresh, cclinux, pydev, jdt, emf, gef, dtp, wtp, birt, linuxtools, eclox)

Now, if I create a simple C++ project in each of these distributions, consisting of a simple .cpp file with an error (an undeclared variable) in it and ant build file that uses the cpptasks cc task to build it, I get the following:

In the vanilla 3.4 SR2 CDT eclipse:

I get 2 problems when the build fails. The first is identified as g++ failed with code 1 and if I double click the problem then I get taken to the cc task in the ant build file. Cool. However, the second problem is displayed as:

Description "[cc] /path/to/the/file.cpp 'dave' was not defined in this scope"

Resource "eclipse-3.4-test"

Path ""

Location "Line 17" (this is the correct line number)

Type "C/C++ problem"

However, if I double click the problem, I am not taken to the cpp file and the file is not highlighted with the problem-red-crossed-circle.

In the randomly-pluginised eclipse 3.4 release:

The g++ failure is shown and behaves as above - good.

The C++ error is shown as

Description "'dave' was not defined in this scope"

Resource "eclipse-test.cpp"

Path "eclipse-3.4.random-test"

Location "Line 17"

** Note that in this eclipse, the problems tab only has 4 headers, not the 5 in the 'vanilla' 3.4 release. It's missing the 'Type' column...

If I double click this problem, then I do a whoop whoop as it takes me to the file, and the line in error is marked with the problem-red-crossed-circle and red underlining.

In the known-pluginised 3.5 eclipse release:

The g++ error is highlighted and shown as for the other 2 variants.

The c++ error is shown as

Description "'dave' was not defined in this scope"

Resource "eclipse-3.5.AMPA3-test"

Path ""

Location "Line 17, external location: [cc] /path/to/the/file.cpp"

Type "C/C++ problem"

Like the vanilla 3.4 release, if I double click the problem, I am not taken to the cpp file and the file is not highlighted with the problem-red-crossed-circle.

So, I initially though this was a CDT issue and submitted a bug to the CDT team. However, they say that the CDT is not responsible for parsing the output of Ant / cpptasks, and that whatever is happening is as a result of something else. The change to the output between the 3.4 and 3.5 releases is purely cosmetic and the underlying parsing has not changed. My question therefore is: what is parsing the output of ant/cpptasks in the randomly-pluginised 3.4 release?! I have no idea what features/plugins are responsible for what, so I need some help knowing if platform Ant has any responsibility in this area? If so, what plugins am I looking for?

Any help is greatly appreciated, as I now see it is possible for Eclipse to recognise Ant/cpptasks output and integrate it into the ide, but I have no idea why only this one weird distro of eclipse can do it, but nothing else can! I am going slightly mad here!

Cheers,

Tom

From: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dalton, Tom
Sent: 07 September 2009 18:09
To: Eclipse Ant integration developers list.
Subject: RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

Thanks for the speedy response Michael!

Bit of background then a couple of questions:

My projects are primarily C and C++, with a healthy dose of other languages mixed in to keep things interesting. Traditionally we've used make files to build everything, using make to wrap some of the more exotic build systems where necessary. Within Eclipse, the CDT stuff gives nice error tracing back to the source where there are compile errors, and also has nice features such as name/function auto-completion, though the intellisense features.

We have recently started looking at using Ant to replace Make, but I'm concerned that the integration between Ant/cpptasks/Eclipse isn't there.

I haven't actually had time to pull a copy of the Platform Ant plugins out of the Java Dev Eclipse distro, so apologies for that. I was wondering - does Platform Ant 'understand' C/C++ and/or the cpptasks (http://ant-contrib.sourceforge.net/cpptasks/index.html) Ant tasks? If not is there any intention to support this in the (near) term? We need a similar level of integration as that provided by the CDT in order to justify using Ant to replace Make.

Thanks for your help,

Tom

From: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rennie
Sent: 21 August 2009 15:15
To: Eclipse Ant integration developers list.
Subject: Re: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

Hi Tom,

First of all, is this editor thing part of Platform Ant (and if not, can you point me in the right direction?)
> Yes the editor, outline, Ant view, etc is all part of platform Ant
Secondly, if it is part of Platform Ant, then how do I get the latest set of plugins? Our dev environment is on an airgapped network, using Red Hat Linux boxes, so I cannot use Eclipse's auto update features - I need to download (preferably .tar.gz -type) files. The eclipse-ccase plugin is distributed as a zip file that just extracts into the eclipse install dir, so I'm after something similar.
> Unfortunately there is a no separate download for just platform Ant, but I suppose you could try downloading a version of the Java Eclipse and just copy over org.eclipse.ant.core and org.eclipse.ant.ui to the plugins directory of your C/C++ install.

Michael Rennie

"Dalton, Tom" ---08/21/2009 05:39:00 AM---Hi guys, First of all, apologies that this probably isn't the right place to ask

From: "Dalton, Tom"
To:
Date: 08/21/2009 05:39 AM
Subject: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?
Sent by: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

Hi guys,
First of all, apologies that this probably isn't the right place to ask this - I have spent about 30 mins trying to find a platform ant newsgroup, user forum etc and can't find anything. I am using the Eclipse 3.5 C/C++ distribution in Linux. This only includes org.apache.ant. However, our project uses Ant to build (using Ant cpptasks for the C++ code). In the Java distribution of Eclipse 3.5, there is a plugin that gives a nice editor for Ant build files, with nice syntax highlighting and an 'intelligent' file outline tree widget thing.
First of all, is this editor thing part of Platform Ant (and if not, can you point me in the right direction?)
Secondly, if it is part of Platform Ant, then how do I get the latest set of plugins? Our dev environment is on an airgapped network, using Red Hat Linux boxes, so I cannot use Eclipse's auto update features - I need to download (preferably .tar.gz -type) files. The eclipse-ccase plugin is distributed as a zip file that just extracts into the eclipse install dir, so I'm after something similar.
Thanks for any help,
Tom Dalton
Build & Tools SME, AMPA
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RE: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

tom.dalton@xxxxxxx (Dalton, Tom) — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:08:39 GMT

Thanks for the speedy response Michael!

Bit of background then a couple of questions:

My projects are primarily C and C++, with a healthy dose of other languages mixed in to keep things interesting. Traditionally we've used make files to build everything, using make to wrap some of the more exotic build systems where necessary. Within Eclipse, the CDT stuff gives nice error tracing back to the source where there are compile errors, and also has nice features such as name/function auto-completion, though the intellisense features.

We have recently started looking at using Ant to replace Make, but I'm concerned that the integration between Ant/cpptasks/Eclipse isn't there.

I haven't actually had time to pull a copy of the Platform Ant plugins out of the Java Dev Eclipse distro, so apologies for that. I was wondering - does Platform Ant 'understand' C/C++ and/or the cpptasks (http://ant-contrib.sourceforge.net/cpptasks/index.html) Ant tasks? If not is there any intention to support this in the (near) term? We need a similar level of integration as that provided by the CDT in order to justify using Ant to replace Make.

Thanks for your help,

Tom

From: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Rennie
Sent: 21 August 2009 15:15
To: Eclipse Ant integration developers list.
Subject: Re: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?

Hi Tom,

First of all, is this editor thing part of Platform Ant (and if not, can you point me in the right direction?)
> Yes the editor, outline, Ant view, etc is all part of platform Ant
Secondly, if it is part of Platform Ant, then how do I get the latest set of plugins? Our dev environment is on an airgapped network, using Red Hat Linux boxes, so I cannot use Eclipse's auto update features - I need to download (preferably .tar.gz -type) files. The eclipse-ccase plugin is distributed as a zip file that just extracts into the eclipse install dir, so I'm after something similar.
> Unfortunately there is a no separate download for just platform Ant, but I suppose you could try downloading a version of the Java Eclipse and just copy over org.eclipse.ant.core and org.eclipse.ant.ui to the plugins directory of your C/C++ install.

Michael Rennie

"Dalton, Tom" ---08/21/2009 05:39:00 AM---Hi guys, First of all, apologies that this probably isn't the right place to ask

From: "Dalton, Tom"
To:
Date: 08/21/2009 05:39 AM
Subject: [platform-ant-dev] Distribution?
Sent by: platform-ant-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx

Hi guys,
First of all, apologies that this probably isn't the right place to ask this - I have spent about 30 mins trying to find a platform ant newsgroup, user forum etc and can't find anything. I am using the Eclipse 3.5 C/C++ distribution in Linux. This only includes org.apache.ant. However, our project uses Ant to build (using Ant cpptasks for the C++ code). In the Java distribution of Eclipse 3.5, there is a plugin that gives a nice editor for Ant build files, with nice syntax highlighting and an 'intelligent' file outline tree widget thing.
First of all, is this editor thing part of Platform Ant (and if not, can you point me in the right direction?)
Secondly, if it is part of Platform Ant, then how do I get the latest set of plugins? Our dev environment is on an airgapped network, using Red Hat Linux boxes, so I cannot use Eclipse's auto update features - I need to download (preferably .tar.gz -type) files. The eclipse-ccase plugin is distributed as a zip file that just extracts into the eclipse install dir, so I'm after something similar.
Thanks for any help,
Tom Dalton
Build & Tools SME, AMPA
EDS, an HP company _______________________________________________ platform-ant-dev mailing list platform-ant-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxhttps://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/platform-ant-dev