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RE: [php-dev] PDT's Great - Improvement Suggestions
- From: "Roy Ganor" <roy@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:23:18 +0200
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- Thread-topic: [php-dev] PDT's Great - Improvement Suggestions
It is very nice to hear this kind of voices.
We expected to pool some experienced PHP programmers (especially Zend
Certified Engineers) at the beginning of the process and we are welcome
you to our project.
Please remember that the project's focus is "providing a PHP Development
Tool framework for the Eclipse platform" and it may miss some features
you are custom to (you said that you are ZDE user, right?).
For your questions:
1) FTP support is built in Eclipse project (through the Synchronize
view), SFTP/WebDav is supported by free plug-in at:
2) #region/#endregion - please add an enhancement for this feature.
3) About the project outline, this is the policy of eclipse and we tried
to preserve it. We know that PHP developers are quite messy with the
files and we enabled to open a php file (without a project) and get the
code completion of the PHP language. Moreover we are trying to put some
order in PHP developers work, we hope it will be paid off in the near
We are very interested in your comments, and we will be happy if you can
write down all your comments in one document (after adding it to
Bugzilla) and send it in this mailing list.
From: php-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:php-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jeremy Privett
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 08:36
Subject: [php-dev] PDT's Great - Improvement Suggestions
I'm new to the list and just recently picked up PDT, but before I go and
put my bugs / quirks / enhancement suggestions into Bugzilla, I wanted
to ping the mailing list first to make sure I'm not advocating things
that people are already aware of / working on.
I've been developing in PHP for almost seven years now, and I've used
dozens of different editors, ranging from Notepad (starting out) all the
way to Zend Studio. I'm currently a ZDE License Holder, and there are
things in it that I just can't live without. I recently picked Eclipse
back up again, and after some time configuring it and getting everything
setup the way I want it, it single-handedly eliminates six other
applications that I use on a daily basis. I tried out the PDT Plug-In,
and I must admit it's very good for where it is today, but I'm
consistently missing some ZDE staples that I've grown very accustomed
One example is code inspection / outline reports on files that aren't
managed in a project. My development is literally all over the place,
and I could be working on over 4 or 5 things at once, and some things
that don't necessarily reside in any actual project scope. The lack of
inspection on these files is really troublesome and it also seems to
effect code-formatting (I have to manually indent my code).
My next biggie is built-in FTP support. Which may be out of PDT's scope
and could quite possibly reside in another Eclipse Plug-in that I
haven't found, so far. If anyone could point me in the right direction
there, I'd greatly appreciate it.
My last suggestion is not a ZDE feature (although, it's one I suggested
and never got a response to), but I would REALLY love to see support for
code-folding #region / #endregion like what's in Visual Studio. This
isn't a deal-breaker by any means, but just something I would love to
actually see in an IDE specifically designed for PHP.
If I could have those two main features plus some of the enhancements
that I see already being worked on in Bugzilla, I would be sold on this
plug-in and I think my new home in PHP Development would be set in
I love the work being put into this, and I'm looking forward to all of
the improvements, in the future.
Jeremy C. Privett
Chief Operating Officer
Zend Certified Engineer
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