[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index] [List Home]
Re: [pdt-dev] Odp.: Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen

Sorry Kaloyan, I mean patches https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/96253/ and https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99102/ !

Yes it would be great to have some opinions from all team about using the 5.0 release, to see if we should revert those 2 patches. Opinions should only concern "writing PHP code using the PHP editor" ;) Personally I find it less good now, because you have validation "artifacts" and highlighting problems while coding. I don't say these problems are new, but they happen much more often now! I consider that as a regression.

And totally agree for your last point, maybe we should even stop adding code earlier (before RC1), or add code that is at least reviewed by 2 members (other than the patch creator) for example. In the case of these 2 patches, time was too short to fully review them, even if first patch was created beginning may.

Thierry.


De : pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> de la part de Kaloyan Raev <kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx>
Envoyà : vendredi 16 juin 2017 11:49
à : pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: [pdt-dev] Odp.: Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
 
Hi Thierry,

As far as I can see https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99312/ was just merged in master, i.e. it goes to 5.1-nightly, but not to 5.0.



So, it is only https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99102/ (the patch that we included in RC4) that actually worries you for PDT 5.0, right?



BTW, you can download the final PHP EPP build from here: https://hudson.eclipse.org/packaging/job/oxygen.epp-tycho-build/318/artifact/org.eclipse.epp.packages/archive/

I suggest all of us do it and see if we are really happy with the result. If we still want to fix anything until the official release date (June 28) then I suggest that we target a 5.0.1 maintenance release at this date.

I think it is also a good idea to be more careful during the RC phase of future releases. Perhaps, we can now build some good process of what goes into 5.0.1 and then reuse it for the RC phase of future releases.

Kaloyan Raev | Zend Studio Team Lead
Rogue Wave Software, Inc.
Innovate with Confidence
M +359 887 648 663
www.roguewave.com / kaloyan.raev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx



On 06/16/2017 11:28 AM, thierry blind wrote:

While speaking about bugs, would it be possible to revert somehow patches https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99312/ and https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99102/ ?

I know I come (too) late for 5.0, but maybe for a 5.0.1 release?
With more testing, they break things more than they solved in the PHP editor, for example:
- compilation errors do not always disappear (annotations seem to be "stuck")
- variable highlighting stop to work pretty fastly
- unused variable highlighting  (from the PDT extensions) also stop to work pretty fastly
- and Alex finds more and more deadlocks (see https://git.eclipse.org/r/#/c/99343/)

Only easy fix I found is to switch between editor tabs, it reset things afterwards (but problem will appear again).

I think more and more we should have never merged these ones (we should have tested these patches much more, I was also too confident this time), but it's a bit too late to whine and complain about that ;)


I'm worried about what the PDT users experience, we added so many great features, but the main component (the PHP editor) is now feeling more clumsy, I'm a bit sad about sad :( Because it can upset users and make them go away from PDT.


Thierry.



De : pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> de la part de Michal Niewrzal <michal.niewrzal@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Envoyà : vendredi 16 juin 2017 07:38
à : pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : [pdt-dev] Odp.: Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
 

Try older PHP version, 5.6 or 7.0. I think there is bug with latest 7.1


Greetings,

MichaÅ NiewrzaÅ | ZEND STUDIO

Rogue Wave Software, Inc.

Accelerating Great Code

www.roguewave.com / michal.niewrzal@roguewave.com


Od: pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> w imieniu uÅytkownika Kaloyan Raev <kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx>
WysÅane: 16 czerwca 2017 09:18:27
Do: pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Temat: Re: [pdt-dev] Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
 
I will rework, If you let me know how to make the Trace Failure appear :-)
It just does not work for me in PDT.

Kaloyan Raev | Zend Studio Team Lead
Rogue Wave Software, Inc.
Innovate with Confidence
M +359 887 648 663
www.roguewave.com / kaloyan.raev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 06/15/2017 05:29 PM, BartÅomiej ÅÄczkowski wrote:

This sender failed our fraud detection checks and may not be who they appear to be. Learn about spoofing Feedback

Cool :) I think that it would be nice to have one failing test in PHPUnit view selected to see some failure trace in "Failure Trace" pane.


On 6/15/2017 4:13 PM, Kaloyan Raev wrote:
How about this?

Screenshot: attached
Headline: Test Code and Manage Dependencies with PHP Development Tools
Details: The PHP support in Eclipse improved by adding integration with PHPUnit for testing PHP code, and with Composer for managing PHP dependencies.

Kaloyan Raev | Zend Studio Team Lead
Rogue Wave Software, Inc.
Innovate with Confidence
M +359 887 648 663
www.roguewave.com / kaloyan.raev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 06/15/2017 02:00 PM, Dawid PakuÅa wrote:
I think both, composer editor plus phpunit after test run ;) Both with project explorer.

-- 
Dawid PakuÅa

On 15 June 2017 at 10:27:27, Kaloyan Raev (kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx) wrote:

Thanks, Thierry!

Any other opinions?

If we should pick between Composer and PHPUnit, what would be your choice?

Kaloyan Raev | Zend Studio Team Lead
Rogue Wave Software, Inc.
Innovate with Confidence
M +359 887 648 663
www.roguewave.com / kaloyan.raev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

On 06/14/2017 12:14 PM, thierry blind wrote:

Even so, what feature should we highlight? What would a PHP developer like the most in PDT 5.0? :) What is exclusive to PDT you don't find in other IDE yet?

Globally debugging&testing is more powerful in PDT yet.

PHP profiling is also a great new feature, but only for Zend debugger (and I'm using Xdebug "sadly").

Supporting composer projects is also a big step.

Hard to choose, maybe we should do some vote here ;)



De : pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> de la part de Kaloyan Raev <kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx>
Envoyà : mercredi 14 juin 2017 08:53
à : pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Objet : Re: [pdt-dev] Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
 
True, it's impossible to have all new features and improvements in a single screenshot. I think the idea is to highlight one new thing that would encourage people to try PDT 5.0 (or Eclipse Oxygen in general). We have an article, a webinar and a N&N page to cover all the rest.

For example, if you look at https://www.eclipse.org/oxygen/, JDT are promoting an improvement in the debugger.
Eclipse is probably best known as a Java IDE, but it is more: it is an IDE framework, a tools framework, an open source project, a community, an eco-system, and a foundation.



On 06/14/2017 11:44 AM, thierry blind wrote:

Hi Kaloyan,

that's not an easy task :)

if you can do a screenshot for a php composer projet with an opened php 7.1 file having PHP syntax check and validation errors, with a PHPUnit tab, a Built-in PHP Server tab, or some PHP profiling tabs, you'll show some nice new features :)


Thierry.


De : pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx <pdt-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx> de la part de Kaloyan Raev <kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx>
Envoyà : mercredi 14 juin 2017 07:32
à : PDT Developers
Objet : [pdt-dev] Fwd: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
 
Hi Team,

We have a request by the Eclipse Marketing to provide one screenshot of PDT 5.0 for the Oxygen page.

We have many new features and improvements in PDT 5.0. How would the single screenshot look like? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Kaloyan


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: PDT Eclipse Oxygen
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:16:47 -0400
From: katharine hirsch <kat.hirsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Kaloyan Raev <kaloyan.r@xxxxxxxx>
CC: Ian Skerrett <ian.skerrett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


Hi Kaloyan,

I hope all is well with you! 

We are in the midst of preparing the eclipse.org/oxygen web page for June 28, and we were wondering if you'd be able to assist with a cool screenshot of PDT 5.0 in Oxygen that we could add to the screenshot section on the web page!

We'd need a crisp high resolution screen shot, with a short description of what you're showing us, and a header.

Is this something you could provide in the next day or so? Take a look at the site for examples, and let me know if you have questions.

Thank you!

Kat

--
Kat Hirsch
Marketing and Event Specialist
Eclipse Foundation
E: kat.hirsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
T: (613) 224-9461 x 242


_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev



_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev

_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev


_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev



_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev


Virus-free. www.avast.com


_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev



_______________________________________________
pdt-dev mailing list
pdt-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe from this list, visit
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/pdt-dev