Re: [paho-dev] When to send publish acknowledgements

[Roger Light <roger@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Ian,

I think you're mistaken - in v5.0 the broker/client must only retry
messages when it reconnects. In v3.1.1 it is required to retry
messages on reconnect, but it is not forbidden to retry messages in
other circumstances (I would argue that it is a bad idea to retry in
other circumstances though).

Regards,

Roger

On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 at 20:08, Ian Craggs
<icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> No.  In MQTT 3.1.1 the broker only resends publishes (or pubrels) on the restart of a connection.  It would be up to the client library to keep the message queued up and retry until the application accepted the message.
>
> It could be a bit different in MQTT 5.0.  There is the opportunity for the client library to send a negative ack back to the broker - I don't know of any implementation that does that though.  In that case, I think the broker wouldn't (mustn't?) send a duplicate, but it could possibly take some other course of action.
>
> Ian
>
> On 27/07/2021 17:37, Frank Pagliughi wrote:
>
> Hello Ian and all,
>
> This issue just popped up again for the C++ library. I had not passed on the ability for the C++ apps to return a not-good value back to the library, and I would like to fix that now.
>
> But it does beg the question, as Greg had asked... If the app doesn't return an "OK" value, what happens next? Will the broker keep sending DUP messages until ACK'ed?
>
> Frank
>
> On 3/30/21 2:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
>
> Ian Craggs <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> if I understand you correctly, this is what I do in the C client.  I
> send the PUBACK or PUBCOMP (old style QoS 2) after the message handler
> callback has been invoked, and has returned a good result.
>
> What happens if the handler runs for a very long time (in a thread?)?
>
> What happens if it returns some kind of not good result?
>
> Isn't the MQTT implementation still required to ack the message, even if
> the client that wants it is misbehaving?  Or is there some support in
> the specification that the acks are supposed to be from the program that
> is using MQTT?
>
>
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