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Re: [paho-dev] Java MQTT Client GUI Utility & mqtt-spy

Ian,

I like the idea of putting mqtt-spy to the incubator sub-project.
Sounds like a good place for it.

Kamil

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Ian Craggs
<icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Kamil,
>
> that's great.  Thanks!
>
> I'm glad to hear that you would like to take on the responsibilities of a
> committer too :-)
>
> Having a separate git repository would not be too much hassle - in fact it
> could make things easier.  All committers in Eclipse projects can write to
> any repository - they just don't touch each other's code except by
> agreement.
>
> I've asked for an "incubation" sub-project for Paho to be set up. This would
> make it easier to have committers for code that is not yet release or
> production ready.  Mqtt-spy could go into that project at first (along with
> some other components such as the Lua client).
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 10/08/2014 12:22 PM, Kamil Baczkowicz wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> No worries. Once I get version 0.1.0 of mqtt-spy out, I'll start
>> working on proper Eclipse headers for all source code files and
>> familiarise myself with Gerrit as I haven't used it before
>>
>> In relation to Git repositories - whatever is best for Paho. Going
>> forward, I'm wondering whether it would be easier for us to manage
>> mqtt-spy with a separate Git repository, as it already grew in size a
>> bit. E.g. "org.eclipse.paho.mqtt-spy.git" or
>> "org.eclipse.paho.apps.mqtt-spy.git", and keep the existing
>> "org.eclipse.paho.apps.git" for various samples. Also, if more people
>> wanted to contribute to mqtt-spy, or there are more tools in Paho,
>> which option would be better in your view? If you think having it in a
>> separate Git repository will be too much hassle then we can stick to
>> "org.eclipse.paho.apps.git".
>>
>> I'd be very happy to become a committer and take up the necessary
>> responsibilities. This would also make any future enhancements I'm
>> hoping to make to mqtt-spy much easier. I don't mind having only
>> access to mqtt-spy/apps repo either. I'm flexible... ;-)
>>
>> Kamil
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Ian Craggs
>> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Kamil,
>>>
>>> thanks for following up!  I thought my last reponse might have been
>>> unnecessarily negative -- I'm just trying to work out the best way to
>>> organize the whole project.  I'd love to see mqtt-spy in Paho.
>>>
>>> We use Gerrit to handle contributions -- that is the best way. See the
>>> Gerrit section on this page:
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/Handling_Git_Contributions.
>>> The code will need the proper Eclipse headers (see any other files for
>>> examples).  Names and namespaces can be changed after the code is
>>> accepted.
>>>
>>> I'm thinking it should go into the apps repository
>>> http://git.eclipse.org/c/paho/org.eclipse.paho.apps.git/?  The
>>> alternatives
>>> would be the java repository, or a repository of its own.  What do you
>>> think?
>>>
>>> The reason I mentioned the difference between committers and contributors
>>> is
>>> because if you remained a contributor, then you would have to submit new
>>> updates to the mqtt-spy code through gerrit.  Then a Paho committer would
>>> commit the update.
>>>
>>> To commit directly yourself, you would have to be, as the name implies, a
>>> committer.  But being a committer means having more responsibility for
>>> the
>>> project.
>>>
>>> (http://www.eclipse.org/projects/dev_process/#4_7_Committers_and_Contributors).
>>> If you are happy to be a contributor for now, then you don't need to
>>> worry
>>> about this :-)
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/10/14 16:40, Kamil Baczkowicz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ian,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info. Could you advise on what would be the next steps
>>>> for donating/moving mqtt-spy to Paho?
>>>>
>>>> Q: So far all Java and XML packages/namespaces are referencing my
>>>> personal domain, so should any changes to these Java package names or
>>>> XML namespaces happen before the move or after? Does it matter?
>>>>
>>>> Kamil
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Ian Craggs
>>>> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kamil,
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry, your email got filed in my brain's to-do list, and only just
>>>>> made
>>>>> it
>>>>> back up.
>>>>>
>>>>> A discussion here is fine, at least to start with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some information about contributions is in the CONTRIBUTING.md file in
>>>>> each
>>>>> repository, and can be viewed here:
>>>>> http://git.eclipse.org/c/paho/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.c.git/about/
>>>>>
>>>>> Committers on Eclipse projects can write directly to the repositories.
>>>>> Contributors submit changes to gerrit (the git code review system),
>>>>> which
>>>>> are then reviewed by committers before adding them to the repositories.
>>>>>
>>>>> I mention this because on "traditional" Eclipse projects, contributors
>>>>> become committers by a vote of the current committers, after
>>>>> establishing
>>>>> a
>>>>> record of contributions.  With Paho being more a collection of separate
>>>>> components, this model doesn't seem to work so well  -- I think you
>>>>> would
>>>>> expect to be the committer for your code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll have to think about how the project is going to work... a
>>>>> sub-project
>>>>> as suggested by Ian Skerrett might be a good option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/19/2014 10:34 PM, Kamil Baczkowicz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian, Andy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd be very happy to make mqtt-spy a Paho component. What would be the
>>>>>> best way forward then? Would it be easier to discuss those
>>>>>> technicalities offline or here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>> Kamil
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Ian Craggs
>>>>>> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/11/2014 12:58 PM, Kamil Baczkowicz wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks everyone for your replies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) Re existing Paho tools
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To sum up, I gather that Paho has the following utilities available
>>>>>>>> (correct me if I'm wrong):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a) Eclipse MQTT UI Plugin & standalone client based on Eclipse Rich
>>>>>>>> Client Platform - as mentioned by Bin
>>>>>>>> b) Standalone Paho MQTT Utility (port of the IBM Java GUI / IA92) -
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> mentioned by Andy and Ian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> c) there is also an Eclipse view originally contributed by Eurotech
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> http://git.eclipse.org/c/paho/org.eclipse.paho.esf.git/tree/. It's a
>>>>>>> possibility it could be replaced by a) above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What could help with promoting the above:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - mention them all on the Paho webpage
>>>>>>>> - decide on uniform names and stick to them, e.g. Paho Eclipse MQTT
>>>>>>>> UI
>>>>>>>> Plug-in, Paho MQTT UI (standalone), Paho MQTT Utility (IA92 port)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with all of that.  The only reason we hadn't so far is
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> intended some sort of rationalization of the tools first.  But now
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> realized it's better to publicize, because they could each have their
>>>>>>> niches.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then, there are two other pages where various tools are listed (so
>>>>>>>> this might need an update too):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -http://mqtt.org/wiki/doku.php/tools
>>>>>>>> -https://github.com/mqtt/mqtt.github.io/wiki/tools
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Q: do we need two pages? Maybe we should put a link from one to
>>>>>>>> another?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the plan is that mqtt.org will redirect to the github site.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> speaking to Andy Piper about it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd be happy to offer my help/time in relation to all the above if
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> need it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the offer :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) mqtt-spy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree with all of you that having different GUIs and
>>>>>>>> implementations
>>>>>>>> is good, as very often choosing one is down to personal preferences
>>>>>>>> and/or system requirements/limitations.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to contribute the code, and I'm happy to keep working on
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> for the foreseeable future.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Questions from my side:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a) Would you rather see mqtt-spy as a Paho utility, or a separate
>>>>>>>> Eclipse IoT project (similar to mosquitto & moquette)? Does it make
>>>>>>>> any difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it would be best as a Paho component - this is what Paho was
>>>>>>> intended for.  However, I do have an incentive to gather good MQTT
>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>> under the Paho umbrella!  There is an overhead in proposing, creating
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> managing a separate Eclipse project, which you might find excessive.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> advantage to you could be a higher profile for mqtt-spy, I guess.
>>>>>>> Although
>>>>>>> in reality the visibility of mqtt-spy could be more down to your
>>>>>>> efforts
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> publicity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> b) Following the move to Eclipse, what are your views on the
>>>>>>>> project's
>>>>>>>> name and a simple page dedicated to it? (e.g. similar to what's
>>>>>>>> current there athttps://code.google.com/p/mqtt-spy/)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The project's name could remain exactly the same.  As you point out
>>>>>>> above,
>>>>>>> having readily identifiable names for the tools will help a lot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also have a few more technical questions about maintaining/running
>>>>>>>> the project under Paho/Eclipse umbrella, but probably better to
>>>>>>>> discuss that offline with someone - who could advise me on that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Kamil
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Ian Craggs
>>>>>>>> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Benjamin,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yep, got it.  I was just adding the information that I had actually
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Marketplace before, as Andy did not realize that :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 09/10/2014 04:03 PM, Benjamin Cabé wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What Andy and Mike are suggesting regarding the marketplace goes a
>>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>>> further than having a Paho entry on the Marketplace (which is a
>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>> already, don’t get me wrong!).
>>>>>>>>> The idea would be to have an entry dedicated to the MQTT UI plugin,
>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> addition to the description etc of the project, you would also
>>>>>>>>> indicate
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> URL of the p2 repository and feature ID of the tool. That way,
>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> install the tool directly by drag and dropping from the web browser
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> Eclipse (see e.g. [1] and the « Install » button on the lhs), or
>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>> search for « paho » or « mqtt » in the Marketplace right from their
>>>>>>>>> Eclipse
>>>>>>>>> IDE (entry in the Help menu).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTH!
>>>>>>>>> Benjamin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/eclipse-scada-configurator#
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 10 sept. 2014 à 16:55, Ian
>>>>>>>>> Craggs<icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I added Paho as a whole to the Eclipse Marketplace in June
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://marketplace.eclipse.org/search/site/paho
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 09/10/2014 12:21 PM, Andy Piper wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK so let's be clear on the two parts to this thread!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Our existing Java GUIs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had planned to do a screencast showing how to install the Eclipse
>>>>>>>>> plugin
>>>>>>>>> at the time of 1.0 release but didn't get it done. We need to
>>>>>>>>> promote
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> more; we might need help on getting it into the Marketplace as I
>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>> the committers have previously been through that process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We also have the client tool which is standalone / non-RCP /
>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>> Eclipse. Also not well promoted / known, lots of people still use
>>>>>>>>> IA92
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> is essentially the same thing but built on much much older client
>>>>>>>>> code.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. mqtt-spy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love it, I think it's perfectly valid to include as an
>>>>>>>>> alternative,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> we'd welcome (I think) the contribution. Thanks Kamil! Any
>>>>>>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>> as a team?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ian Craggs
>>>>>>>>> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's also a simple and incomplete port of the IBM Java GUI at:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/paho/1.0/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.utility-1.0.0.jar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I started that a while back to get a simple GUI going.   I still
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> that this approach is valuable in addition to the RCP GUI because:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1) it is 200k rather than 22MB, so is good for quick downloads and
>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>> platforms
>>>>>>>>>> 2) it can run anywhere Java can - is not limited to Linux, Mac and
>>>>>>>>>> Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kamil,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I see that mqtt-spy uses JavaFX, and uses Java 8.   The interface
>>>>>>>>>> approach
>>>>>>>>>> also looks nice.  It seems to me that all of these utilities could
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> complementary, and have a useful place in Paho, because of their
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> system requirements and GUI styles.  People always have different
>>>>>>>>>> preferences for GUIs.  So personalIy I would still encourage you
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> consider
>>>>>>>>>> contributing mqtt-spy to Paho.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 09/10/2014 03:54 AM, Bin BJ Zhang wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In fact, Paho already got a client UI tool available for a long
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> can be run as a eclipse plugin or standalone application (based on
>>>>>>>>>> Eclipse
>>>>>>>>>> Rich Client Platform).
>>>>>>>>>> But, it seems nobody has tried.  A screenshot
>>>>>>>>>> here:http://pho.to/6ySi2
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://repo.eclipse.org/content/repositories/paho-releases/org/eclipse/paho/org.eclipse.paho.ui.app/1.0.0/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-linux.gtk.x86.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-macosx.cocoa.x86_64.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-win32.win32.x86.zip
>>>>>>>>>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-win32.win32.x86_64.zip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Bin Zhang
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> WebSphere MQ, IBM China Software Development Lab
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <Pièce jointe.gif>Kamil Baczkowicz ---09/09/2014 11:28:03 PM---Hi
>>>>>>>>>> all,
>>>>>>>>>> Following a quick chat with Andy P, he suggested posting a message
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Kamil Baczkowicz<kamil.baczkowicz@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>> To:paho-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>> Date: 09/09/2014 11:28 PM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [paho-dev] Java MQTT Client GUI Utility & mqtt-spy
>>>>>>>>>> Sent by:paho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Following a quick chat with Andy P, he suggested posting a message
>>>>>>>>>> here to discuss, again;-), the idea of a Java MQTT Client GUI
>>>>>>>>>> utility
>>>>>>>>>> (for Paho).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Over the last couple of weeks and months I've been working on
>>>>>>>>>> mqtt-spy. It's still far from perfect, so any feedback or help is
>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>> much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     From start, my intention was to make the code open and
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I believe you've been thinking about a Java MQTT Client GUI
>>>>>>>>>> Utility
>>>>>>>>>> for quite some time, so the question is whether you still need or
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> one?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If yes, I was wondering whether mqtt-spy could fill that gap,
>>>>>>>>>> avoiding
>>>>>>>>>> duplication of effort, and potentially helping you when working on
>>>>>>>>>> Paho.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My goal for mqtt-spy is to create a functional, easy-to-use and
>>>>>>>>>> robust
>>>>>>>>>> test tool for MQTT, Once all necessary features are available, I'd
>>>>>>>>>> also like to open it to other pub/sub protocols if time allows.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are your views on that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Kamil
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ian Craggs
>>>>>>>>>> icraggs@xxxxxxxxxx                  IBM United Kingdom
>>>>>>>>>> Committer on Paho, Mosquitto
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Committer on Paho, Mosquitto
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>>>>>>>>> Committer on Paho, Mosquitto
>>>>>>>>>
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