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Re: [paho-dev] Java MQTT Client GUI Utility & mqtt-spy
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Kamil,
Regarding your last question concerning the specifics of running a project at Eclipse, Wayne Beaton (cc'd above) can help.
Mike Milinkovich
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Original Message
From: Kamil Baczkowicz
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:58 PM
To: General development discussions for paho project
Reply To: General development discussions for paho project
Subject: Re: [paho-dev] Java MQTT Client GUI Utility & mqtt-spy
Thanks everyone for your replies.
1) Re existing Paho tools
To sum up, I gather that Paho has the following utilities available
(correct me if I'm wrong):
a) Eclipse MQTT UI Plugin & standalone client based on Eclipse Rich
Client Platform - as mentioned by Bin
b) Standalone Paho MQTT Utility (port of the IBM Java GUI / IA92) - as
mentioned by Andy and Ian
What could help with promoting the above:
- mention them all on the Paho webpage
- decide on uniform names and stick to them, e.g. Paho Eclipse MQTT UI
Plug-in, Paho MQTT UI (standalone), Paho MQTT Utility (IA92 port)
Then, there are two other pages where various tools are listed (so
this might need an update too):
- http://mqtt.org/wiki/doku.php/tools
- https://github.com/mqtt/mqtt.github.io/wiki/tools
Q: do we need two pages? Maybe we should put a link from one to another?
I'd be happy to offer my help/time in relation to all the above if you need it.
2) mqtt-spy
I agree with all of you that having different GUIs and implementations
is good, as very often choosing one is down to personal preferences
and/or system requirements/limitations.
I'm happy to contribute the code, and I'm happy to keep working on it
for the foreseeable future.
Questions from my side:
a) Would you rather see mqtt-spy as a Paho utility, or a separate
Eclipse IoT project (similar to mosquitto & moquette)? Does it make
any difference?
b) Following the move to Eclipse, what are your views on the project's
name and a simple page dedicated to it? (e.g. similar to what's
current there at https://code.google.com/p/mqtt-spy/)
I also have a few more technical questions about maintaining/running
the project under Paho/Eclipse umbrella, but probably better to
discuss that offline with someone - who could advise me on that?
Cheers,
Kamil
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Ian Craggs
<icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Benjamin,
>
> yep, got it. I was just adding the information that I had actually used the
> Marketplace before, as Andy did not realize that :-)
>
> Thanks for the info
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 09/10/2014 04:03 PM, Benjamin Cabé wrote:
>
> Ian,
>
> What Andy and Mike are suggesting regarding the marketplace goes a step
> further than having a Paho entry on the Marketplace (which is a great thing
> already, don’t get me wrong!).
> The idea would be to have an entry dedicated to the MQTT UI plugin, where in
> addition to the description etc of the project, you would also indicate the
> URL of the p2 repository and feature ID of the tool. That way, people could
> install the tool directly by drag and dropping from the web browser to
> Eclipse (see e.g. [1] and the « Install » button on the lhs), or could
> search for « paho » or « mqtt » in the Marketplace right from their Eclipse
> IDE (entry in the Help menu).
>
> HTH!
> Benjamin
>
>
> [1] http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/eclipse-scada-configurator#
>
> Le 10 sept. 2014 à 16:55, Ian Craggs <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
>
> Andy,
>
> I added Paho as a whole to the Eclipse Marketplace in June
>
> http://marketplace.eclipse.org/search/site/paho
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 09/10/2014 12:21 PM, Andy Piper wrote:
>
> OK so let's be clear on the two parts to this thread!
>
> 1. Our existing Java GUIs.
>
> I had planned to do a screencast showing how to install the Eclipse plugin
> at the time of 1.0 release but didn't get it done. We need to promote it
> more; we might need help on getting it into the Marketplace as I don't think
> the committers have previously been through that process.
>
> We also have the client tool which is standalone / non-RCP / doesn't need
> Eclipse. Also not well promoted / known, lots of people still use IA92 which
> is essentially the same thing but built on much much older client code.
>
> 2. mqtt-spy
>
> I love it, I think it's perfectly valid to include as an alternative, and
> we'd welcome (I think) the contribution. Thanks Kamil! Any questions for us
> as a team?
>
> Andy
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Ian Craggs
> <icraggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> There's also a simple and incomplete port of the IBM Java GUI at:
>> https://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/paho/1.0/org.eclipse.paho.mqtt.utility-1.0.0.jar
>>
>> I started that a while back to get a simple GUI going. I still think
>> that this approach is valuable in addition to the RCP GUI because:
>>
>> 1) it is 200k rather than 22MB, so is good for quick downloads and small
>> platforms
>> 2) it can run anywhere Java can - is not limited to Linux, Mac and
>> Windows.
>>
>> Kamil,
>>
>> I see that mqtt-spy uses JavaFX, and uses Java 8. The interface approach
>> also looks nice. It seems to me that all of these utilities could be
>> complementary, and have a useful place in Paho, because of their different
>> system requirements and GUI styles. People always have different
>> preferences for GUIs. So personalIy I would still encourage you to consider
>> contributing mqtt-spy to Paho.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>> On 09/10/2014 03:54 AM, Bin BJ Zhang wrote:
>>
>> In fact, Paho already got a client UI tool available for a long time which
>> can be run as a eclipse plugin or standalone application (based on Eclipse
>> Rich Client Platform).
>> But, it seems nobody has tried. A screenshot here: http://pho.to/6ySi2
>>
>>
>> https://repo.eclipse.org/content/repositories/paho-releases/org/eclipse/paho/org.eclipse.paho.ui.app/1.0.0/
>>
>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-linux.gtk.x86.tar.gz
>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-linux.gtk.x86_64.tar.gz
>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-macosx.cocoa.x86_64.tar.gz
>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-win32.win32.x86.zip
>> org.eclipse.paho.ui.app-1.0.0-win32.win32.x86_64.zip
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Bin Zhang
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> WebSphere MQ, IBM China Software Development Lab
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> <Pièce jointe.gif>Kamil Baczkowicz ---09/09/2014 11:28:03 PM---Hi all,
>> Following a quick chat with Andy P, he suggested posting a message
>>
>> From: Kamil Baczkowicz <kamil.baczkowicz@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: paho-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Date: 09/09/2014 11:28 PM
>> Subject: [paho-dev] Java MQTT Client GUI Utility & mqtt-spy
>> Sent by: paho-dev-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Following a quick chat with Andy P, he suggested posting a message
>> here to discuss, again;-), the idea of a Java MQTT Client GUI utility
>> (for Paho).
>>
>> Over the last couple of weeks and months I've been working on
>> mqtt-spy. It's still far from perfect, so any feedback or help is very
>> much appreciated.
>>
>> From start, my intention was to make the code open and available to
>> anyone.
>>
>> I believe you've been thinking about a Java MQTT Client GUI Utility
>> for quite some time, so the question is whether you still need or want
>> one?
>>
>> If yes, I was wondering whether mqtt-spy could fill that gap, avoiding
>> duplication of effort, and potentially helping you when working on
>> Paho.
>>
>> My goal for mqtt-spy is to create a functional, easy-to-use and robust
>> test tool for MQTT, Once all necessary features are available, I'd
>> also like to open it to other pub/sub protocols if time allows.
>>
>> What are your views on that?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kamil
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