| Hi Yahya,
That would be perfect. Thank you very much for being willing to take on the challenge.
As a personal note, I have been working with Unix for thirty odd years. It is a brilliant environment for development. I am sure that the experience you have now in learning how to use the environment will server you well in the years to come.
Btw, you might be interested in Cygwin. It is an open source unix like environment for Windows. It is very mature and it allows you to work on a Windows machine as if it is a Unix box. It is the VERY FIRST thing that I put onto a new windows machine if I have to use it. Give it a try.
I will set up your account and will send you the details shortly.
Cheers, Joel
On 8 Dec 2008, at 16:41, Yahya ÖZTÜRK wrote: Hi Joel,
I want to follow this way, please kindly comment about it.
- I am going to try to have a spare machine which is running on Linux (about 2-3 week)
- Please create an account on your Linux server for me and I will transport my works step by step from my local Linux machine.
Do you intend to do the work on the remote machine first and then move it to you new machine or vice a versa?
- I am going to read more source about CBI.
Is this appropriate for you?
Regards,
yahya
Note: Please help me which linux release is more comfortable for me :)
2008/12/8 Joel Rosi-Schwartz <Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx> Hi Yahya,
I really think that using the CBI is the most sensible thing to do from the perspective of building on top of the infrastructure that is supported and maintained at the foundation. My preference is to find a way for you to be able to do this.
I assume that since you did not say, that you do not have a spare machine that you can put Linux on. If not there is another way to approach this if you do want to get experience with Linux. Etish has a remote Linux sever which I can set up and account for you. Working remotely is a a little slower, but it is manageable for this type of work. Let me know if you are interested in this solution.
Thanks, Joel
On 8 Dec 2008, at 13:21, Yahya ÖZTÜRK wrote: Hi All,
I am so sory for my late answer but I was very busy at last week. So,
I am not use Linux, i can learn it in short term but i dont have a machine which is running over Linux so i dont try CBI on locally (home or work), it is very big problem for me.
I know EF is ruuning on Linux, I think it is not problem, because if we can run any automated buid on locally we can transport it to EF.
So, If we have to use CBI I cant help you but, I may use another build system I want to continue working on.
According to me, We can use most common approach for automated build rather than CBI.
I am waiting for your comments about it.
Regards,
Yahya
2008/11/30 Joel Rosi-Schwartz <Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx> Hi Yahya,
I have cc'ed the list because I think that is important that everyone know what is happening in the various arenas. I hope that you do not mind.
You have made good progress; that's great. Thanks.
Concerning Linux that is going to be an issue. Regardless if we use CBI or not (and my gut failing is that we should be), we do* need to be using the EF build server which is running on Linux.
Are you saying that you have never used the Linux OS? Are you willing to pick up the basics now so that you can continue being responsible for the CM? Note that you do not have to be a *nix wizard to do this. What is needed is basic familiarity with the unix shell (probably bash in this case), the basic commands and the basics of shell scripting. If you are willing to go for this, do you have a spare machine that you could put Linux on to practice?
Thanks, Joel
* This is not necessarily absolutely required, but it would be rather silly for us recreate and manage all of this ourselves. In addition when we join the build train in the future we will have to be on the build server, so we might as well start off right now.
On 30 Nov 2008, at 10:19, Yahya Ozturk (YKTBY) wrote: Hi Joel and Barbara, I have worked on PDE and CBI build for 3 days and you can find my experience below; - PDE build is very useful and based on ant build and I have ant experience so if we write appropriate ant scripts we can use them both cruise control locally build and PDE server build (eclipse build server). I think I can prepare a PDE build infrastructure for ORMF and also i can integrate it with Cruise control.
- CBI build depends on linux operation system plesase look at here , You can find this sentence "Note that this script is currently only supported on Fedora 10". Therefore I dont have any experience lunix operating system and I dint any work on CBI build. Maybe this approach is very powerful but i have to work on understanding CBI long time if you want.
Regards, yahya
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