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On 27 Sep 2008, at 15:42, Achim Lörke wrote:
Quoting Joel Rosi-Schwartz <Joel.Rosi-Schwartz@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> One thing I would specifically ask of you Achim and Vasile. We would
> really like to do a good job at functional testing. If it is
possible
> to utilise GUIDancer it would be really brilliant. Assuming that is
> possible, I would like it if Vasile could be trained up on GUIDancer
> so he can take on the functional testing with you and Barbara
> mentoring him. Vasile, this would not take up all of your time so
you
> will definitely have the opportunity to pick up other tasks and
> skills. If Vasile is willing to take it on, are you willing to get
> him trained up so he is ready to go?
>
Of course we can use GUIdancer for testing. There is still a problem
with OSX support. We are working on this, but I don't know if it is
solvable at all (Apple has done strange things to the AWT and Swing
support). Windows and Linux work well.
Brilliant. The lack of OS X support should not be an issue. As long
as we can pass the functional tests under Windows and (possibly)
Linux, I think that simply using the system under OS X here is
sufficient to build an acceptable level of confidence.
I'll help Vasile and in addition I'll try to get one of our
dedicated testers to support him as well. Please be aware that in
our opionion testing is a skill in it's own right and requires ate
least as much knowledge as software development. It's a matter of
designing robust tests and not just repeating "boring test scripts".
We know all too well from personal experience. If Vasile is up for it,
I believe it will be a great leaning experience.
> We already have a fairly good starting set of test cases that are
> generic so they are tool agnostic. I believe that you have said that
> with GUIDancer it is not necessary to have the GUI running to start
> writing the scripts. Is that accurate?
That's right. All you need are the requirements or even better test
scripts (written scenarios, not automation scripts).
B. can you make sure that all of the existing test cases are checked
in. Then if you can prepare some kind of orientation of the these for
Achim and Vasile they can get started.
> With the presented plan we
> will have ORMF running again at the end of Iteration 1 and
functional
> testing could actually be started then. It would be fantastic to
have
> a set of regression tests in place before we tear apart the system
> for EMF.
>
This is doable. I'll work out a way to do nightly test with the
(then) current repository and GUIdancer. We are actually doing this
with GUIdancer itself and several other application we are
developing for customers using CruiseControl and a few ant and shell
scripts.
Ausgezeignet!!! :-)
Cheers,
Joel
