| Re: [orion-dev] Orion UI layout changes coming very soon |
Hi,
Great design, Anton! I really like the new look and feel. I'm hoping to get
it in 5.0!
Regarding our general approach to UI, I have a couple of questions:
1. Do we have a general UI direction we're going towards? In other words,
is this design just a step in a more general one, or should it be sort of a
milestone?
2. "Orion is not Eclipse in the browser" - how's your mindset regarding
this project statement? In the last couple of months we're migrating
towards a more Eclipse-a-like UI.
Some common UI concepts from the desktop world are continously incorporated
into Orion, hence it seems to me as if the cited statement is not so
relevant anymore, or perhaps should be redefined.
Do you share my observations?
3. "Design with mobile in mind" - since the new UI design is arguably more
complex then before, it seems to me that it will get harder and harder to
support mobile devices. What's our strategy here?
Do we want to have one single UI for all devices (mobile, desktop, etc.),
or do we plan to provide multiple designes for different devices? The
second approach sounds more mobile friendly.
It's quite obvious to me, that mobile devices are not a good solution for
intensive web development. Maybe we could investigate some common mobile
use cases, figure out tasks for which Orion is used
on mobile devices and just provide a partial mobile UI design, fitted for
those tasks (eliminate unnecessary UI elements, commands, etc.)? This would
match with another Orion project statements: "Minimal UI".
Does this makes sense to you, Anton?
Best regards,
MACIEJ BENDKOWSKI
Software Engineer - Eclipse Orion
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From: Anton McConville <Anton.McConville@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: orion-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 29-01-2014 17:06
Subject: [orion-dev] Orion UI layout changes coming very soon
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Hi,
Last Friday at the Orion UX meeting, I showed some UI design changes that
we're working on applying to Orion. Here is a link to the direction we're
working on:
http://goo.gl/mvaVCC
And to another mock up showing a new side menu bar for navigating to pages.
http://goo.gl/3aeEI4
This work has happened incredibly quickly - all within the last couple of
weeks, and it is a considered response to feedback - that sometimes links
were difficult to find in Orion - and building on our responses to user
feedback throughout 2013.
We spent the first couple of weeks in the year trying to figure out how to
make it easier for ( especially new ) Orion developers to find things, and
concluded that the best approach was to offer menus that most developers
would be familiar with in an IDE. It also helps us organize the extensions
to the interface more. Page links will appear in the hamburger, or
vertically in the side menu, and actions appear horizontally in the File,
Edit, Tools etc menus.
We've been rapidly prototyping the UI in the past week, and now the working
code in our branch is accumulating and getting close to these designs. We
wanted to make sure that this change was workable.
The intention is that developers using Orion will experience a familiar
layout and approach to developing code - they can view a tree, context
menus, and a common menu bar - but in a clean and efficient web page - or
they can collapse the tree and side Menu and work on a clean simple page to
edit their code. We have some versatility with the components and behaviors
that we've cultivated in Orion.
This UI departs from the plus menu / gear menu / deploy menu approach -
that we realise is very appropriate for a mobile device, but perhaps not as
intuitive on a big screen for people experiencing Orion for the first time.
We plan to hold on to the concept and work on responsive views as time
progresses.
This email is acts as a heads up ... that we'll need to push our changes
soon. I'll blog about the background to these changes in the coming weeks.
As always feedback is welcome.
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