Re: [orion-dev] orion-dev Digest, Vol 37, Issue 18

[Ken Walker <Ken_Walker@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Docker:  Yes, the ability to run standard commands in isolation against your workspace.  Check out http://runnable.com as an example of a site leveraging Docker for learning languages.  We still have security issues we'd like to iron out with this approach.

CloudFoundry:  The ability to 'push' directly to a PaaS provider similar to the shell command 'cf' or 'gcf' but through the UI.  Doing automated deploy based on Git commits is not on the Orion side.  Although if the PasS provider supports it we have full Git support to work with it.  See http://planetorion.org/news/2013/07/orion-and-google-app-engine-push-to-deploy/  as an example.

Ken Walker
Lead of the Orion Project at Eclipse and within IBM | Tools for the Web, On the Web
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gomegam website ---01/29/2014 07:20:28 AM---Thanks ken for the road map info. Good to hear cloud foundry's integration. Intent to use  Docker: I

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Thanks ken for the road map info. Good to hear cloud foundry's integration.

Intent to use  Docker: Is it  to provide shell access by isolating every user's workspace in a container. 

Cloud Foundry:
Can you provide details on what is intended to be supported ?  eg: Git push(for builds) to Cloudfoundry ?



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   1. Re: Code to Cloud in minutes with no cloud vendor lockin.
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Thanks for the link and doc, I'll start reading over it.  We are also in
the process of adding basic CloudFoundry API support in for our R5.0
release.

This means working on an app inside Orion and pushing it to a CloudFoundry
API compatible PaaS provider.

Not for 5.0 but for likely 6.0 we are also adding support for shell-like
access through Docker.io to run commands against your workspace

Something like http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Terminal_Administration_Guide

Just so you know what our existing roadmap is looking like.

Ken Walker
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Dear All,

Here is a proposal we plan on working. We would be glad to hear views from
the development community.

Here is the online google doc link for the proposal.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I6e-sE5nW-aLKaGoN0w7j0qfpvgYXLXEtxe4w3RhFLQ/edit?usp=sharing

Today our PaaS stands up "Orion IDE" in 5-10 mins on any cloud. We want to
extend it further.

Proposal ?Code to Cloud (Eclipse and Orion IDE)?



Problem : What does it take for an app to move to cloud by leveraging PaaS
ultra quick with no cloud vendor lock in. The cloud can even be your own
using 2-3 servers. How can we improve app agility by bringing it closer to
production like environment.



We would like to propose an Open source PaaS(Public/On premise) that we are
working on. Megam is an open source cloud automation software built on open
standards and provides PaaS for Java, Ruby, node.js, Play(Scala), Akka
(Scala) on any cloud. The cloud can be your own data center.



1. Compiles from  Eclipse IDE to PaaS built on Open source.
We propose a way in which the current Eclipse IDE fat client leverages a
PaaS using an API.



Developer just works on code in their Eclipse IDE. Registers with Megam (
https://www.megam.co).  The Megam API stands up an ?app on the cloud? of
choice as registered with Megam. Subsequently as code gets built, developer
gets a choice to push the code to git. Git triggers updates to the ?app on
cloud?. Developer receives an url to play with the web app. The stuff a
developer can do are run automated builds on the ?app on cloud?, start,
stop.



2. Now moving on to Orion. As the future moves to thin clients (chrome
books) Orion IDE will become dominantly used by developer. Orion has all
the functionality for editing code. After code edit is done, the code
stored in Github/Git can directly be deployed with a single click to
Megam. Again the stuff as talked before on the assumptions that a developer
is onboarded in Megam applies.  This approach is the open source equivalent
of  (Cloud9ide c9.io). c9 which connects to heroku, openshift paas and
claims to have 250,000 users. This model embedded with a customizable Open
source PaaS (Megam) can get better ROI for enterprise.











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