Re: [orion-dev] An overall feedback

[John Arthorne <John_Arthorne@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thank you for the feedback Lamine, you
have an interesting project and it is great to see people exploring different
ways to adopt and integrate Orion.

Without getting into a big debate here,
I will say it was a very deliberate decision in Orion to avoid recreating
the traditional IDE experience in a single tab. We deliberately went instead
for lightweight, focused, linked pages that flow with how the web works
today. Some background on these decisions can be found in these links:

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Development_principles
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Orion/Project_mission_statement
http://www.slideshare.net/bokowski/orion-8414877

John




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 lamine <laminba2003@xxxxxxxx>
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Date:      
 12/06/2012 06:19 PM
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   [orion-dev]
An overall feedback
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Hi, 

As an overall feedback and from what I have learned in experimenting several
Cloud IDEs, the key thing of their possible success is really in the UI
and in the user experience. And personally, I will definitely use one of
them to build my web application in the Cloud if they do respect my current
developer experience by bringing at least the concept of an IDE that can
run in a single browser tab. And the reason is fairly simple, It is really
costly in terms of memory to have many browser tab instances opened at
the same time ( Youtube, Twitter....) and as stated by Steve Krug, the
key thing to usability is this : Don't make me think.

1)  http://www.amazon.com/Think-Common-Sense-Approach-Usability/dp/0789723107


You can see now what is going on when a file is opened with my concept
of views and with my console (Config Button : show Logs=true). And any
error during this operation is catched to launch the problems view so that
my system can fall gracefully. Clicking on the views button at the very
bottom of the page or Shift + V will show you all my registered views.
And maybe, an outliner could be the next?


2) http://youcontrol.lamine.cloudbees.net/faces/admin/editors/edit.xhtml?id=Orion


Thanks
Lamine
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